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Re: Tipping opponents robots

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Originally Posted by ExTexan View Post
I am hoping that this is not as condescending as it could be interpreted.
Dr Joe just has a talent for making bold predictions and pushing the forum in new directions. For those that join from 2008 and on, that is where the Looking Forward prediction concept came from.

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Originally Posted by eugenebrooks View Post
There are many situations where a robot might end up tipped
that are not purposeful. As an example, using your robot to
run interference on the other side of a bump might end up
with a tipped robot if it keeps coming over the bump on top
of the robot running interference. This, in my opinion, is
fair game. The tip was the result of an action taken by
the robot that ended up tipped.
Where this type of play is particularly important is defending against a robot that hangs from the bump. I have seen very inconsistent calls for this, from ranging from no penalty to a red card and a penalty.

I really can't understand the red card and a penalty (from regional I will not mention out of respect, and to keep this discussion constructive dont post regionals either). The team didnt have a prior yellow card. Neither robot is touching the tower so no protection rules and that wasn't the call. So a <G36> yellow card for tipping should be the max for this offence. I think the ultimate call was a <G38> (penalty & red card) which obviously doesn't apply because both robots are on the bump so it is permitted under <G37>.

I made a point to watch these type of calls at our regional to feel out what was RAS (Ref Appropriate Strategy) and I was satisfied with how it was called. I would have used that strategy if given the chance.
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