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Originally Posted by maltz1881
Mike is probably one of the best if not the best inspector out there. Having worked with him for a couple years now in the pits, he is such a fair and hard working man.
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Quoted for truth. Our complaints are not with Mr Martus or the rules. They are merely things we have found irritating and would like to seek community support on how to minimize these sort of issues in the future.
Now, the complete rudeness to my parents, one of whom is over 75 years old and does not get around very well is something I was unaware of and to whatever team this was SHAME on you. They weren't wearing any team shirts so for all you know they were just people who had heard of the competition... or potential sponsors. What the heck is wrong with you? (No, I don't know the number, no I don't WANT to know the number)
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Originally Posted by 45Auto
Because that's the first time you've had inspectors that noticed it and were aware of the rule. Why complain when someone points out to you that you're breaking a rule? The inspectors are volunteers and only human, they're under lots of pressure to get a bunch of robots through inspection as fast as possible. A lot of them are not intimately familiar with FIRST, robots, or all of the rules.
As was noted earlier, R75 has been around for a long time. Just because you and others got away with something for several years doesn't make it legal.
I expect our team to be thoroughly aware of all the rules. We have 6 weeks to make sure our robot is legal, the inspectors only have a few minutes.
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Did you read what he said? He is saying that he is not blaming anyone. He is merely remarking on some issues he had. Now, if you are one of those people that refuse to admit that FIRST can do any wrong and claims that it is perfect I can accept that but otherwise I would appreciate if provide constructive posts that consist of more than, "I don't care because you broke a rule now shut up." You have insulted my team with your comments but more importantly you have insulted my brother. You have disregarded what we have posted and merely made cheap cracks at our expense with your comments about how "teams worth worrying about never have problems".
We admitted we missed it. We admitted it was our fault. I will personally admit that I dropped the ball by missing those rules. Not my team, not the inspectors, ME. Now that assigning blame is done (as it was 2 days ago) can we accept that and move on to help us find solutions to these problems?
Ours was NOT a localized situation. Many teams in Michigan had major problems. Many inspectors also were unclear on rules and interpretations varied from inspector to inspector. There IS a problem. People are confused on the rules. Bumpers seem to be particularly confusing for everyone. (No, I don't want to hear about how your team got it right and then another attack on my team questioning how stupid we are to not get them right) There is a problem. I don't know if it is localized to Michigan but it exists. Is it lack of training? Lack of inspectors? Unclear wording? Too many updates? We are not complaining, we are not criticizing inspectors (if I were to do that it would be in person) We showing that there is something wrong somewhere along the line. We are holding our own team up as an example because bringing up another team as an example would be RUDE to them. I have a list of teams who had major violations (significantly more major than 1/4" bolt protruding outside the frame perimeter) giving them a competitive advantage. I have one example of a team that was given and award for it. How can we make sure inspections are consistent and complete across the world?