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Re: Rosie stuffs Thrust

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Originally Posted by GBilletdeaux930 View Post
And just for good measure, how do we feel about this match? We were in a pushing match with team 2826, and they tipped. Them and 2194, were some of the better scorers up against our alliance with not-so-good ones. So instead of allow 2194 to right 2826, we decided to play defense on them and not let them do that. They wasted the rest of the match, only scoring one more ball after that tip. Defense or overly-aggresive?
The camera work in that recording keeps cutting away so it is tough to tell exactly what happened

Did 2194 ever contact 2826 to try to right them?
If so then did 930 contact either robot within the 10 after the righting attempt started?

If the answer is yes to both of those questions then I would say 930 violated <G32> which is a penalty and possibly a Red Card. However if 930 prevented 2194 from ever getting to 2826 to start righting then that is legal (provided there was no other rule violates, pinning, etc...).

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Originally Posted by G32
ROBOT Protection while Righting – Before the FINALE, ROBOTS attempting to right themselves or their ALLIANCE partners have one 10-second grace period per fallen ROBOT in which they may not be contacted by an opposing ROBOT. This protection continues for either 10 seconds or when the protected ROBOTS have completed the righting operation, whichever time comes first. Violation: PENALTY for inadvertent contact; plus a RED CARD for obviously intentional contact.
It is like tower protection during the finale. You dont have to let a opposing robot get to the tower (or fallen robot in this case) but once they are there you shouldnt be in contact with them. Much like tower defence the defender is walking a fine line and should be aware of the risks of penalty and Red Card associated with their actions (not confused and mad when they violate a rule and get penalised as we have seen on this forum)

I have watched a lot of matches and at most regionals I dont see G32 being enforced. Even worse it seems like most defensive robot drivers react to an opposing robot trying to right a partner by hitting them. That should be a penalty and probably a Red Card. However, if they are not penalised it only reinforces that habit. I hope that <G32> will be a point of emphasis in Atlanta. Also, as a general strategy point, if you are defending and you flip someone (which happens a lot because the bumpers are so required to be so high off the ground this year but that is another rant) leave the flipped bot alone until they are righted, they aren't likely to score from their back. Go defend another bot (that is not righting them) or clear some balls out of the zone. You are only risking penalties by being around the flipped bot.
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