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Originally Posted by EricH
Actually, in FIRST, undefeated == winner.
If you never lose a match, and you have to lose two matches to be out of the eliminations, then if you are undefeated and the event is over, you have won the event.
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You can't win if you dont make Elims. You can go undefeated and not make elims in this seeding system (0-0 ties are particularly damaging). I don't mean to pick on Israel (I know about the comm problems

), but consider:
Team 2215 at IS
Record 2-0-2 (one match was a surrogate)
Ranked 37th of 55
Did not make Elims
It didn't take me long to find an example in IS. I just went to TBA and clicked on winners of matches (4th try). There are probably more examples there. We should add them to the list. For better or worse they will finish the season undefeated in 4 matches.