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Unread 07-04-2010, 22:00
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Re: Second Chance Bracket... ...A Crazy Idea...

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Originally Posted by ajlapp View Post
Is it possible that the eventual winners of the "Second Chance Bracket" would then face the Einstein Champions for one final match?

This would be sort of like the pre-alliance FIRST brackets where you had to play through a long series of tough matches before you were awarded the chance to take a strike at the currently undefeated champions.

Either way, more matches and chances to play is always a great idea!
I am concerned about making this a method back to Einstein (or actually, TO Einstein, since these teams didn't make it) because I think the Einstein event is already borderline too long (well... ...actually it is WAY too long, but the realities of FIRST are such that it is almost impossible to shorten the talker bits so anything we add to the robot bits would be a net add to the finals ceremony which I just can't see as a good thing).

IF (and this is a big IF) we changed the format of the CMP such that qualifying matches ended late on FR night or early on SA morning then perhaps we could have time for a full blown 64 Alliance Double Elimination Tourney on 5 stages! Think about that for a minute... ...if we had kept the "must loss 2 games to loose a " format for each "match" then lets assume that it takes 2.5 games per match. In order for 63 alliances to loose twice and assuming that the winner lost 1 match, you would need 127 matches or 318 games. On 5 stages at 6 minute intervals is over 6 hours of matches! But oh what matches!!!

By the way, at team that lost in round 1 but then went on to win it all would have to play 11 Matches (~28 games)! Even an undefeated team that wins in straight games plays 14 games! Whoa... that's a lot of games in 6 hours.

Maybe some day but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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