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Unread 23-04-2010, 08:48
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Re: Thoughts on CoOpertition

Loser gets loser's score. No more 6v0, along with more of an incentive to win.

Winner still gets W + 2L. Get rid of the 5 point bonus, because the stuff you were trying to mitigate by including that bonus is no longer in the game.

Teams are only allowed to score in their own goals. No more 6v0, and no more 2*loser's score padding during a blowout. Winning teams aren't doing this to help and "cooperte" with the loser; the loser doesn't magically become more of a capable machine as a result of this practice; winning teams are doing this only to elevate themselves in the standings, which they will continue to do if the rules permit them to do it. Please get rid of any other tra la la "coopertative" notions that claim otherwise, and close the door on this pointless practice.

But...BUT...since the 2L bonus is still in place, if the better teams want to maximize their seed scores, forcing them to only score in their own goals ALSO incentivizes getting them to help their opponents become more capable BEHIND THE CURTAIN, where true "coopertition" has been demonstrated for years. The only way to get a big 2L bonus is to make sure your opponents are competitive BEFORE THE MATCH and leave them balls to score DURING THE MATCH. What a concept.

Finally, I really like the idea of a mutual "coopertition" objective built into future games - this sounds like the mutual mission that spans the two fields in FLL.
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