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Re: Dean Kamen, Manual Laborers, and You

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I was sitting 45 feet from that podium, and the message that I got from "people don't want those jobs back" was very different than "screw manual labor", especially in context, considering dean was talking about the recent economic downturn.
Indeed, that was part of the issue. People who have lost their manual-labor jobs and desperately want them back don't respond well to a guy who brags about his own island and helicopter saying that we don't want those jobs back.

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But hey, context is everything, and the internet doesn't need context to make controversy.
I'm sorry, but if you think I'm using the internet to manufacture some kind of controversy, you have everything all wrong.

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It doesn't seem like you're losing much, really.
A full-time mentor for three years, in a tiny town, who has given thousands of dollars to the team. Your philosophical "not losing much, really" pales in comparison to what our team is actually losing in real life.

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People don't walk out of group meetings and empty out their desks because their CEO makes a misstatement,
Yes, they do. People abandon businesses and causes all the time because of statements seen to be belittling, elitist, discriminatory, or some mixture of the three. All the time. To say otherwise is to be in ignorance of the facts.

Calling my mentors immature and unprofessional is not helping, Isaac.
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