[Mike Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Jack Jones

How is whining about whining supposed to be an improvement?

If people have gripes, they should be allowed to air them without being told to shut up and drink their Kool Aid. Whether it is 6v0, the definition of “inside”, frustrations with minor technicalities, powerhouse collaborations, a $1k discount linked to a $2.5k KoP shortfall, or a civil request for transparency, each issue raised has some value – even if only for nothing more than letting off steam.

I agree with you, all those threads had their purposes, I even started one of those. But there is a definite difference between constructive criticism of game or competition fundamentals and saying "469 cheated!", "1114's students don't do anything!" or "HoT is unfair!" If there is a legitimate complaint with something controllable or something that we as a community can change via feedback to FIRST or to the community then by all means post it and see what everyone thinks. Those threads aren't the problem. In a way this thread is similar to those. This thread, like those, is pointing out a problem in the community (as described below) and aiming to fix it.

I'm only concerned about people who want to whine about how they don't have the resources or sponsors, or complain how everyone else is better than them. Where do you think those teams started! They need to get off chief if they're going to say that crap. No one wants to hear it. All they're doing is making their team look stupid and earning themselves red dots.