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Unread 08-10-2010, 15:19
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Re: 2011 Greater Toronto Regional

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson View Post
It's the same number of matches, but that way they were all done one after another. It took almost as long as the 2010 IRI elimination rounds. :-P

Instead of adding eight match series at the beginning of the process, the proposed Champions' Match would add only one series after the rest of the matches were done in two simultaneous 8-alliance brackets. So it's not adding much additional match time...but it's doing it in a very inconvenient way.
Think of it this way. 1114, 48, and 1006 and 33, 639, and 1112 each had to win a regional's worth of matches to get to the 2004 Canadian Regional finals. We did not see each other until the final matchup - we each competed in a separate full regional bracket to get to the finals.

GTR East Winning Alliance and GTR West Winning Alliance each have to win a regional's worth of matches to get to the GTR E/W Uber Championship. The alliances will not see each other until the final matchup - they each competed in a separate full regional to get to the Uber Championship.

You would only have to append the one final series of matches after the 2 separate GTR E/W elimination structures to achieve it. This one series of matches could be held immediately after the champions for each regional were determined (provided logistics and scoring software allow for it to happen quickly).

My only point is the exact same process needed to determine a GTR E/W Uber Champion has already been played out once before, at the same event, in 2004. There is a precedent. That is my point - it's not like anyone has to reinvent the wheel. The event staff knows how to make it work. The only question is whether they feel it worth the additional time and resources.

Was the 2004 Canada elimination process more of a marathon for everyone? Sure, it was, but that's the point - the alliances who reached the finals had to work harder to be declared the ultimate champion of that event. It meant something more than being a "regular" regional champion. Even though we came up just short, the whole experience was one of the highlights of my FIRST career. I think it's worth doing and would add to the spectacle and history of an already great regional.
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Last edited by Travis Hoffman : 08-10-2010 at 15:26. Reason: My mind is going. I can feel it. Team change.