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Re: FRC 2011: Logomotion [Initial Impressions]

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Originally Posted by BBnum3 View Post
Where are you getting this from? Section 5.3.3 states that seeding will be based on Qualification Score, which has returned to its previous state of 2 points per win, 1 per tie, 0 per loss. So there's still the incentive to win your qualification matches, and therefore an incentive to play defense.

As for my opinion of the game, I really like it. I am excited to see the different ways teams climb the tower with the minibot. I think teams that dominated in 2007 will be at an advantage, but they are also susceptible to new teams using the old tried and true ways of scoring tubes.

I think that the endgame is insanely important. If your alliance gets the first two minibots, that's 50 points, so the other alliance can only get 25. Those 25 points are going to be almost impossible to make up using tubes alone.

Overall I'm very excited for this year's game.
I understand that qualification points are first, but the ranking points are next. So yes, there is a small incentive to play defense, but if you are playing defense, you are preventing your ranking score from going up. You want as high of a ranking score as possible so if you have a tie, you are the better team and are seeded higher.

So basically, if you cannot outscore the opponent, you can try to prevent them from scoring, which means one (or more) of your robots will be used to play defense against the other team, which makes it harder for your team to score because you only have 2 (or 1) robot trying to score at all times.

Defense will be vital in the finals, but to get seeded the highest in qualifications, you should try to get your opponents score to go as high as possible if you are winning, and try to get your score as high as possible if you are losing. Basically, if you just try to score, you are helping every one of the teams in respect to ranking points.

Yes, this is just talking about ranking points, but it is another thing you have to take into account for during the competitions.

I agree that winning the match should be your first priority, and I think some teams will play defense no matter what. It will be interesting to see how the matches actually turn out....