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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast 4/22 and 4/23 Championship Preview

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<Guest 39> hello
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<Guest 12> Am i supposed to be hearing something?
<nuggetsyl> yes
<schreiaj> Yes, there is audio
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<Guest 39> Yeah I can't hear anything right now
<Guest 12> hmm...
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<schreiaj> refresh should fix that
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<schreiaj> TS is a little special at times
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<pyeung45> yes
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<Baselthe2nd> Refreshes didn't work for me; I resorted to listening via WMP stream
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<schreiaj> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOaOhIxj1KHY57QdI7jUJnVBx6oCeJO626tXAhqsQ44/edit
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<Guest 4> Can anyone program it?
<MarcS> But only one team built it...
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<Guest 44> the secret is the programming 
<schreiaj> having looked through their code, yes
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<Guest 44> watching their driverstation screen is pretty cool
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<MarcS> SKYFIRE!
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<thefro526> robot is soooo sexy
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<Guest 56> how long does it take to buffer audio?
<XaulZan11> 44, whats their screen like?
<Guest 44> shows all their vision processing
<XaulZan11> cool
<Guest 44> since its done on the driverstation laptop
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<Guest 59> Is there any other way to listen? I've tried refreshing multiple times with the same result.
<Guest 4> 254 was better at Silicon Valley then Central Valley
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<thefro526> call the number at the bottom
<Guest 44> open http://recordings.talkshoe.com:8000/TS-617850.mp3.m3u in a media player as a strem
<IndySam> what's your browser?
<schreiaj> you can call in
<Guest 4> 341 by a long shot
<Guest 56> chrome
<Guest 59> Chrome.
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<IndySam> I have never been able to get chrome to work on talkshoe
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<Guest 56> safari?
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<Guest 20> Really?
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<Guest 45> Chrome is working for me
<Guest 20> I'm running chrome >.>
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<IndySam> yup, but that's just me
<Brandon_L> http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/webClient.jsp?masterId=98466&cmd=wc
<Brandon_L> ^chrome
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<Brandon_L> its a pain for me too
<Guest 4> 254 is long, 341 is wide, big difference
<IndySam> just sayin'
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<Guest 56> 254 can triple
<Guest 31> Autonomous is going to make or break most of these wins, I agree
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<wing1002> which team are we discussing?
<Guest 31> Any robot can triple....
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<Guest 31> *has tha capability to triple
<Guest 56> they can hang 2/3 off the ramp
<schreiaj> They have a stinger but it is in a really awkward place imho.
<nuggetsyl> 341 vs 254
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<Guest 4> 254 trying to triple http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105707
<XaulZan11> but 341 can pick the best two robot while 254 needs to pick atleast 1 wide robot, which may make a difference
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<Guest 31> Agreed
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<MarcS> Their stinger works just fine.
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<Guest 63> def
<Guest 31> I don't doubt that they'll be able to get that wide robot, though
<Guest 52> 1023 spins around
<Guest 52> and tips the bridge
<XaulZan11> Agreed 31, but will the be passing on a better long robot?
<XaulZan11> they*
<Guest 63> for the record safari works if any else is having trouble
<Guest 31> Very possibly
<Guest 45> yes, 971 was shooting mid because they had high goal consistency problems at regionals. They've really improved that post-SVR
<Guest 31> There are some strong wides, though
<Guest 31> Look at 1986
<Guest 31> All depends on seeding, really
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<Guest 4> 254 will shoot ball for ball, but won't score ball for ball
<Guest 45> 971 is looking to be shooting key at champs instead of fender
<Guest 63> 254 have drastically improved shooting consistency
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<XaulZan11> 3098 is solid all the way around. Not sure they can compete with 341/987
<Guest 4> 63, that's what people said before CVR, but it didn't happen
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<Guest 4> Missouri is the show me state, not the brag state
<Guest 61> 254 will have new drivers at champs
<Guest 63> their camera dropped out
<Guest 63> tbd
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<Hallry1676> @61: What?
<Guest 61> yep
<Guest 62> @61 how do you know?
<Hallry1676> Why?
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<Guest 61> other guy cant go
<nuggetsyl> http://www.warlocks1507.com/gallery3/2012/Buckeye-Regional/Friday/IMG_0936
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<Guest 31> Wow...
<Guest 61> idk what happened
<Hallry1676> wow...
<Guest 61> but it is someone new
<Guest 63> 61 he probably will be going
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<Guest 8> Can tripple have breaks
<Guest 61> im from 971
<Guest 4> 1507 is awesome
<Guest 63> 61 im from 254
<Guest 63> he was sick
<Guest 61> k
<Guest 63> got better
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<Guest 8> 1507 has breaks
<Guest 31> @63: no new drive team, then?
<Guest 61> did that change last i heard was thursday
<Guest 63> yeah
<Guest 61> k
<Guest 63> he was really sick
<wing1002> Texas Torque!
<Guest 63> came to school friday
<Guest 61> nvm then
<Guest 45> glad to hear that
<Guest 63> we are not sure yet but he is almost def coming
<Guest 31> 1477 was not quite as strong at Lone Star as they were at Bayou/Alamo...
<Hallry1676> Who are they a twin of?
<Guest 31> Changed a bunch on their robot at competition
<Guest 65> Their tipper is rather shaky.
<Guest 5> 624 is better than 1477
<Guest 31> 624 has more consistent shooting
<Guest 31> 624: only key shooting
<Guest 4> 1477 is only a lock because they are EWCP
<Guest 63> any1 have pics of them?
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<wing1002> meh
<Guest 14> http://www.texastorque.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/robots.jpg
<wing1002> 1477 has proven themselves
<schreiaj> 4, how many EWCP teams have been on this list?
<thefro526> 1?
<Guest 67> not necessarily
<wing1002> maybe they had a slow regional like 2415?
<Guest 63> thanks
<Guest 67> two long bots can balance
<Guest 4> 2415 was underrated, 1477 overrated
<Guest 31> Agreed.
<XaulZan11> Good call. 27 was anything special at MSC and didnt get picked.
<XaulZan11> wanst*
<Guest 31> @4: agreed
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<wing1002> yea, I agree
<wing1002> but 1477 is still good
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<Baselthe2nd> Michigan had some weird selections due to wide/long issues with over half the captains being long
<Guest 31> They are; I just think they've got to really step it up
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<Guest 63> won davis with 971
<Guest 63> second seed iirc
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<Guest 45> #1 seed at Sacramento
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<Guest 31> The competition on Curie will be much better than the other three
<wing1002> yea, 1477 went down from alamo and bayou to lone star
<Guest 61> 1678 was first seed
<Guest 5> how the heck did you guys put 1986 as a wildcard?
<wing1002> nah 31, Archimedes
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<Guest 5> 1986 is a lock
<wing1002> 1986 won twice, but not at very strong events
<Guest 5> not a wild card
<Guest 31> Oh, I totally agree with you
<Guest 14> imo... 1986 should be top 5 of division
<XaulZan11> KC was surprisingly really solid
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<Guest 31> By other three, I meant 1477's 3 regionals
<Guest 45> 1986 is definitely not a wild card, they're quite good
<Guest 45> I would say at least a tip, if not a lock
<wing1002> oh
<Guest 31> @45: YES
<Guest 4> 1986 is definitely a lock
<wing1002> haha
<Guest 5> yeah but you can say the same about 1477 they werent really at strong regionals
<schreiaj> We apparently disagree, we feel they could be really disruptive
<thefro526> I will explain why 1986 is a wildcard
<Guest 65> 1986 is really impressive. Especially with their new bridge mechanism that allows them to hang 17" of their robot off the bridge.
<Guest 14> why thank you dustin
<wing1002> 17"???!?!?
<wing1002> wow....
<Guest 31> 17" 
<Hallry1676> yeah
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<Hallry1676> crazy
<Guest 4> 1986 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef3Ie2Qft8I
<Guest 65> sorry. 14"
<Guest 31> They have a mechanism that comes down off the bot that increases the amount of contact they have with the bridge
<Guest 65> but that's with a wide robot.
<XaulZan11> so only 11' on the bridge?!
<jtemple> guys, wildcard, for reference, does NOT mean worse than Lock or Tip
<wing1002> wow
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<jtemple> it means they're a team who can shake up selections
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<Guest 31> I think they could be a lock
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<kellenhill1625> woot woot
<Guest 31> More than just a shaker
<kellenhill1625> swartdogs
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<Guest 5> 525 is good
<wing1002> i'd say wildcard is more like somewhere between a lock and a tip
<Guest 71> ,
<Guest 4> named after their teacher
<kellenhill1625> under 3 ft
<wing1002> not guaranteed, but not exactly inconsistent...
<kellenhill1625> we're gonna bring our shooting power
<wing1002> Pink!
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<Guest 9> 836's issue on bridges only happened at DC and it was because the low gear in the transmission failed.
<schreiaj> I would honestly put wildcard as a more prestigious position, we all know that the locks are gonna be playing in the afternoon but we think that...
<MarcS> 233 is good.\
<schreiaj> ... wildcards will have a huge impact
<wing1002> yea
<Guest 71> 71?
<sportzkrazzy> florida
<kellenhill1625> 71 is similar yeah
<sportzkrazzy> every year
<IndySam> 71
<wing1002> I think Wildcards will be there in the afternoon
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<sportzkrazzy> I love em
<wing1002> Locks are gauranteed top seeds pretty much
<wing1002> Wildcards are either top seed or close
<wing1002> and tips have potential
<Guest 5> I think you guys are bad at putting teams into the correct categories sometimes
<sportzkrazzy> you cant hate a team that dies that lol
<thefro526> Wildcard on this list means the team that has the most potential to jump
<thefro526> and do something crazy
<Guest 31> Anyone see any teams on the lock list (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOaOhIxj1KHY57QdI7jUJnVBx6oCeJO626tXAhqsQ44/edit?pli=1#) that shouldn't be?
<wing1002> sounds like 2415...
<sportzkrazzy> they need a time laps of there robot build in the pits
<Baselthe2nd> I like 3098, but I wouldn't call them a lock..
<Guest 5> ^
<wing1002> hah Curie Curse
<Guest 71> curie never wins
<Guest 71> einstein
<MarcS> 2007 and 2010 defines the curie curse.
<wing1002> 2010 was so close....
<Guest 45> Up until 2008 Galileo never won either
<kellenhill1625> where is the list?
<Guest 4> Galileo never won unti 2008
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<Guest 71> then they destroyed
<IndySam> watch out for 3940!
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<Guest 4> 1986 can't stir it up because everyone knows them or will know them by picking time
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<Guest 31> @4: I agree. I think they're going to wow everyone
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<Guest 31> Not a secret anymore 
<Hallry1676> yep, we played with them then
<thefro526> If everyone goes wow
<wing1002> is that the same case with 2415 at archimedes?
<thefro526> that means that they were suprised
<thefro526> thus wildcard
<wing1002> 341 top seed!
<Guest 31> Hahaha, fair enough, @thefro
<sportzkrazzy> 233 is great at coop
<Guest 71> 971 will be second pick
<Guest 4> 1986 is more well known then 1507 and 624
<sportzkrazzy> they seeded crazy high in Florida because of it
<wing1002> sort of like what 1771 did on Galileo last year.
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<Guest 8> how is coop found for divisions?
<Guest 5> who is the best bridge bot in Curie?
<Guest 71> 341
<Guest 71> they don't have to limit their picking to including a wide bot
<sportzkrazzy> you think we will see two longs trip. at champs?
<Guest 31> Yes
<wing1002> yea
<Guest 71> yes
<sportzkrazzy> how long will it take?
<thefro526> Long/Wide/Long will happen
<Baselthe2nd> Almost certain there'll be attempts
<Guest 71> depends on alliance
<thefro526> but it's going to take time
<thefro526> and practice
<sportzkrazzy> idk
<Guest 71> 254 and 971 did it in about 6 seconds
<wing1002> practice fields at CMP will be crowded
<sportzkrazzy> how many teams will risk it
<sportzkrazzy> ?
<Guest 71> but they practice together
<Guest 4> 341 won't be able to do it as fast without 25 on the other end
<wing1002> the 8 seed teams may risk it
<Guest 44> it will be VERY hard to practice/evaluate triples iwth how the practice fields are setup
<Guest 31> If it means the difference between a win and loss, I would imagine many will
<thefro526> there are plenty of teams with brakes, Guest 4
<Guest 31> May not be important enough until elims
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<Guest 4> 25 has a long history with brakes. Saying that many teams has brakes is the pit scouting fallacy
<Guest 71> brakes are important
<Guest 71> they let teams balance later
<Guest 31> 1477 has brakes
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<thefro526> Guest 4, who are you?
<thefro526> You seem to enjoy pointing out faults
<wing1002> >.<
<sportzkrazzy> I really dont see 2 longs being able to keep up score wise with the time difference involved in the balance
<Guest 71> does 987 have breaks?
<Hallry1676> http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_03091.mov
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<Guest 4> I've also complimented 1717, 1507, 2415, I just have different ideas then you
<wing1002> hmm....
<thefro526> I'm just curious as to who you are
<thefro526> is all
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<schreiaj> That's fine, we're cool with dissenting opinions but we like to know who we're talking to
<XaulZan11> who wouldn't listen to 341?!
<Guest 15> 1986
<Guest 71> deaf people
<Guest 5> lol
<Guest 31> I want to ask again because it got a little lost when the "Curie Curse" came up:
<Guest 31> Anyone see any teams on the lock list (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOaOhIxj1KHY57QdI7jUJnVBx6oCeJO626tXAhqsQ44/edit?pli=1#) that shouldn't be?
<Guest 71> 341 if they aren't the first picking team, they will be the first picked
<Guest 71> cause they are wide
<sportzkrazzy> can wlw beat wll on Einstein?
<sportzkrazzy> other way around sorry
<wing1002> that's interesting
<wing1002> it depends on hybrid
<wing1002> who gets to the middle bridge first
<XaulZan11> on galileo, 2054 and 3322 are very good, but more of tips, I feel
<schreiaj> we'll talk Galileo tomorrow
<XaulZan11> and maybe 180 and 399, but I haven't seen enough of them
<Guest 8> cant get to the practice field
<Guest 8> read the practice field rules
<sportzkrazzy> 180 is good
<sportzkrazzy> they have a stinger too
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<Guest 31> What about Curie (since that's our topic right now)
<Guest 31> ?
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<Guest 8> 1507 has bike breaks
<Guest 71> 254 has mechanical brakes
<MarcS> It doesn't matter how long you do something, if you don't use it properly then it's not a competitive advantage.
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<Guest 74> Who has had brakes for years
<Guest 71> visibility is also a factor of tripling
<Guest 71> hard to see from driver station
<Guest 5> 25 has had brakes for years
<Brandon_L> I was lucky enough to be behind the alliance wall that 25 was scoring on, watching that light come on and the 3 shots scoring EVERY time is scary
<wing1002> Curie seems to be solid this year
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<wing1002> the Curie Curse might be broken
<sportzkrazzy> 801
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<kellenhill1625> where are the tip, lock, etc picks ewcp put together?
<Guest 4> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOaOhIxj1KHY57QdI7jUJnVBx6oCeJO626tXAhqsQ44/edit?pli=1
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<sportzkrazzy> same robot as us
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