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Ok folks, here is the deal.

If we put a lottery machine next to the field and generate matches that way, you will probably get the exact same thing, and the only good side is there will be less complain to us about pairing not being random. The bad side is, the lottery machine will probably make it even worse.

We tried the best we can to generate match list. On Thursday night, I set at the scoring computer for about an hour, generating match lists after match lists, using most of the 11 methods included with the scoring methods, and the best we could get is have two team who will get paired with at least 1 same partner for 7 times.

Now, it could be that Sacramento is a small regional of 27, and a lot of teams are bound to face each other again, but still, that's just the way it is. I had to maneually swap some teams, and it worked out fine. Teams were fairly happy about the matches (if not, you can complain to me, and I will apologize for it).

The thing is, FIRST tried the best they can to make the match generator. There are 11 methods of generating "random" matches, and the score keeper work for a long time to keep trying and trying to make it good. But the fact of the matter is, we work all day from 7am to 5pm to get the matches working, and more than 2 addition hour beyond that schedule is simply unresonable. I even heard St. Louis score keeper had to stay until 3am in the morning to get it working. We just can't check the list number by number after working more than 10 hours straight.


But don't get me wrong, I understand the frustration for teams as well. I've been on a team myself. It's just that given the limited resources and time, this is the best we can do so far. The list is as random as it will get, it's just that the numbers don't look that way.

If you want to create your own match generator, feel free to do it, but don't even bother submitting it to FIRST unless you have done more than 1000 trails, and all of them looks "random" and makes you happy. But then again, that's not really random itself. Being "random" means some of the time it's not going to look random.
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