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The problem with overly complex fields is expense. Teams in the past didn't like having to spend a huge amount o build there field. Also many teams don't have room for a huge field. Thats why about 4 years ago first "standardized" a rectangular field. The size was small enough to fit in many rooms while large enough to still be fun. The field is relatively simple and can be made for little money. Having a hex field would require much more psace for teams to build an area.

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What could possibly provide this? It's quite simple: go back to the way nearly every sporting event does scoring. Base it on winning instead of points as the main factor for ranking.
Actually most sports use a subjective panel to rank teams. Normally commentators or coaches rank teams according to wins/looses, scores, opponents they've faced. A team who's record was 3 and 3 and lost 3 to the best bots in the game may be better than a 6 and 0 team who won because of poor opponents. There is far to little of a judging staff to sit down and rank teams.

This also brings up another point. All the recent games have been "end scored" rather than scored during the match. The reason is judges must look for penalties and fouls rather than keep track of score.

I used to be in the robot-basketball club. But do you really think FIRST wants the headline to read "robots play basketball"? The game would have to be changed amlot to, will there be a shot clock? what about out of bounds? is there goaltending? what will happen to the ball after a shot is made? Trying to mod a sport to play would be a disaster and wouldn't even look like original sport when finsihed.

I'll continue this with basketball. We'll stay with a 2v2 game. The field is from 2002. There is a large structure at the center of each human station wall. It has a central opening of 1 foot in diamter and an outring 3 ft in diameter. Both cylindres are 6ft tall. There are 12 balls on each side of the field and another 12 in each human play station. Getting a ball in the inner ring is worth 3pts and in the outer is 1. Anyone who has been around FIRST for a while knows some teams can collect balls as fast as they move(8ft/s). So in a finals match the balls may be all scored quickly. Bots may adapt a goaltending design in whcih they block making it almost impossibel to score on them. The basketball-esk game is endscores(FIRST requirement). But its boring and has the possibility to end withina 30 seconds with some really fast teams out there. Beyond that it barely resembles basketball. Human sports are scored during play and last about an hour while FIRST games are end-scored and last 2 minuts. My conclusion FIRSTifying a human sport is nearly impossible.
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