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Yes - Robots do break - Give us until Tuesday following. 80 61.54%
No - You break you will have to tuff out the repair on site 28 21.54%
No - Just pack up and go home, forget the nationals 3 2.31%
Just break the rule 19 14.62%
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THE MAP IS FULL OF HOLES

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Originally posted by Al Skierkiewicz
How many veteran teams have helped out rookies or even other veteran teams when a defective design broke down during a competition. How often have I been told "it is more important to compete than to win". It is for this reason our adult advisors make ourselves available during competitions to help other teams. We have literally helped many teams over the years (and have been helped), and those teams were able redesign, or rebuild a broken robot and compete. The students of those teams getting the opportunity to see first hand "gracious professionalism" at it's greatest and getting the chance to compete. How many times have other teams even taken a time-out to allow us to make repairs or mount up a spare even though they were the opposition team/alliance.
Thanks Al, you've made my point exactly. Like I said before, teams at FIRST events do not just let other teams flounder when they need help. When a team needs help, the helpers have to stand in line! That is the beauty of this organization, and it will not change because there's more contact in the game.

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I recall our first year back in 1999 when we were advised to build a strong Robot but being Rookies we didnt know what a strong Robot ment.
We thought we bult strong but were wrong, we had our share of problems and many teams came to our rescue including TEAM 111 Thank you....
This caring and sharing will end this year as its every man for him self. why would any team want to fix a teams bot that might come out the next game and cause damage that in effect sends you home.
Nick, I'm sorry, but you're completely off base here. In 1999, there was just as good a chance that a robot that team 111 helped fix would come back to compete against team 111. The truth of the matter is that it's much more fun to compete against robots that work than it is to compete against broken robots, and, more importantly, it is in the spirit of the game to help!

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Are you kidding....... Your in the finals and theres 2 minutes between games, you discover your main gear box has to be rebuilt what are you going to do whip out some raw material and wave a magic wand, because thats what you will need to save you.
Bad news - those three days aren't going to help you, even in this situation. Better hope you have a good partner, maybe even someone who's robot you helped fix.

The thing that distresses me the most about this thread, though, is that no one has addressed my point about teams attending multiple regionals having an unfair advantage. Am I off base with this statement? And please be civil - just because we disagree doesn't mean that we can't do it graciously.
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