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You're new at FIRST, are'nt you?

Last year was 100% cooperation, this year is much more competitive. You CANNOT deny that lifting a robot presents a clear danger to that robot, no matter how well constructed it is.

Your...line about a team asking permission was silly, no team would do that, and it has nothing to do with the task at hand. A robot designed to lift other presents a risk to teams that should'nt need to be dealt with, lest FIRST become battlebots.

getting 3 goals is difficult, and does not present an immediate danger to the condition of other robots. That is good, we like good, elegant solutions for problems. Pushing other robots without harming them is fine, otherwise the game would be very boring, with robots avoiding each other.

Picking up robots requires teams to, in effect, attack other robots.

Shoving other robots is ok, as long as it is not of mal intent, but lifting requires much more effort, and robot must be PURPOSELY designed to to that. To put 6 weeks of effort to disable other robots is, in my opinion, against the spirit of the competition.

As for putting your robots on the field representing a risk to other teams, that's ridiculous, I’m sorry, but i keep falling out my chair laughing. You try and justify lifting other robots with a forklift by saying their presence presents a danger?

QUOTE: Virtually every aspect of the game puts robots at risk. UNQUOTE

Ok...I'm putting balls in goal A, now I'm bringing the goal across the field... I'm not seeing the danger, unless of course you mean winning by fair play, in which case I'm quite a threat to society.

Come on, how do you justify disabling other robots with a cohesive argument? I'm not sure you can, without taking major liberties with the ideals of FIRST. What lifters do is turn FIRST into Battlebots, and that is a true shame.
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