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Re: Team 45...

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Originally posted by Clark Gilbert

(Andy if u read this and think i left anything special out, help me)
You got it, Clark. I'll add some.

We've come a long way. I'm going to write a lot on this subject, so bear with me.

In 1992, our robot was built by UAW skilled tradesmen in the shop at Delco Electonics... many overtime hours, much $$ on labor spent. The students were handed the robot at the end of 5 weeks (we started a week late).

In 2001, here is the make-up of how our robot was...

Built: 80-90% was built by students. The remainder was built by engineers, parents, and teachers. Some of these adults know more about fabricating parts than our students, and some know less. Even the most difficult parts (dual motor drive assembly) was made by students, 100%. The people who put together, debugged, and repaired this assembly were mostly students (the Gilberts, by the way). Only about 8-10 hours of "professional" help was needed for our robot by the UAW skilled trades guys at Delphi (4 shafts pinned and 2 chains welded).

Concepted: Our entire team comes up with concepts for the robot, much like many teams. We actually split up into 4 sub-teams to come up with our robot concept.

Designed: 10-15% of our robot was designed by students. This year, our lead student designer (Phil Lundberg) led a team of students who designed the gripper system on SolidEdge CAD, generated prints, and managed the fabrication and assembly of these two subassemblies.
... The majority of the robot was mechanically designed by 2 engineers. An entire print package was created and students could see how machines are supposed to be designed.

Programmed and wired: This is probably our weakest area with regard to student involvement. Our students wire about 30-40% of the robot, and do less with regard to programming... BUT we are going through a change with that. Last year, only 1 student was interested in programming, and we have 3 freshmen coming in who want to focus on software development. Also, our electrical lead student is returning, and he learned alot last year.

As for the generalization that the Delphi teams don't have student involvement... that is ridiculus. Our students are tested on the game, the robot and our team history. Along with building the majority of the robot, they are expected to give demonstrations and give back to their community. Actually, this year, they will be creating a robotic project which helps special needs children in the Kokomo community... and they will be in charge of the project.

FIRST is not a science fair, and it's not called FERST. Education is not the same as inspiration, as colleen wisely pointed out above.

For the teams who make robots which are 100% student designed and built, I greatly respect you. But, I also challenge you to go out and ask a few engineers this: "We want to learn about technology and engineering from you... will you please help us?"

Andy B.

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