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This was Win-Win

Posted by Joe Johnson.   [PICTURE: SAME | NEW | HELP]


Engineer on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central High School and Delphi Automotive Systems.

Posted on 12/15/99 4:51 PM MST


In Reply to: Re: UNFAIR ADVANTAGE for CDI and new control system posted by Lora Knepper on 12/15/99 3:05 PM MST:



This was a win-win situation.

Innovation FIRST wanted a real world trial for their radios & controllers.

We wanted to break the tethers that always limited what we could do with the Chief Delphi Invitational.

The CDI was a success and Innovation FIRST (and FIRST) gets to sleep that much better at night knowing that they have a rock solid system that has been somewhat tested in a FIRST-type environment.

The Advantage Gained from teams that participated in the CDI is simply the fact that they were able to touch the controllers while others can only view photos.

Let's be clear on 2 points

1) ONLY INNOVATION FIRST WAS ALLOWED TO PROGRAM THE CONTROLLERS

2) THE ONLY WIRING THAT WAS ALLOWED WAS CONNECTING A SPEED CONTROLLER (OR A RELAY) TO A MOTOR AND PLUGGING IN A JOYSTICK OR FOUR.

So, nobody from the CDI knows any more than you folks about how to program these beauties or how to wire the sensors or how the dashboard works or anything else of real competitive advantage.

You talk about all FIRST teams being on the same team. I agree with you.

I would go further though. I would say that EVERYONE on the FIRST team is better off because of what Innovation FIRST learned on the beta-version controllers they let us use at the Chief Delphi Invitational.

If this advantage for the entire FIRST community was purchased at the relatively small price of a few teams actually touching a controller a few weeks before the rest of the FIRST community, then I think it was worth the price.

Joe J.

P.S. By the way, folks familiar with the CDI may see some of its better parts reflected in the 2000 FIRST Competition.

Before people start to talk about yet another advantage to CDI teams, let me say that FIRST is a great organization that learns from many sources. If they gleened an idea or two from the CDI and decided to implement them for 2000, should we object and insist that they wait until 2001 in an effort to make if fair for ALL teams?

I don't think FIRST is farther toward our shared goal that way. Do you?


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