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Re: At first I thought so too...

Posted by Amy .

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Posted on 8/15/2000 10:03 PM MST


In Reply to: At first I thought so too... posted by Splash on 8/15/2000 3:09 PM MST:



What about having only the top 8 seeded alliances from each division compete in the elimination rounds for that group, more like a regional?


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Re: At first I thought so too...

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Posted on 8/17/2000 6:15 PM MST


In Reply to: At first I thought so too... posted by Splash on 8/15/2000 3:09 PM MST:



I would agree that this system is better but not perfect. I don't think there really is a perfect system. 1 group could have 12 great alliances and another could have 2. Only thing I don't like is lets say the group with 12 great alliances had an alliance that could beat everyone except the team it lost to in it's own division, what your really doing is hurting the teams in the strong division and also hurting the weaker divisions by not having stronger alliances. But then you look at it like this, maybe the alliance that comes out of the weakest group turns out to be the Champion. i don't know, it's complicated but if this came before me I would vote to give it a try

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LIVE?! ;-) ;-)

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Posted on 8/15/2000 1:29 PM MST


In Reply to: The Case For 'Regionalizing' teams at the Nationals. posted by Joe Johnson on 8/15/2000 7:02 AM MST:



I'd just like to say right on to Joe's proposal, which is as always logical and thought provoking. It doesn't really alter how things are done very drastically either but it definetly makes it a lot easier to envision TV coverage of FIRST. Obviously there are a number of problems with trying to do TV coverage of the nationals in it's current form, especially LIVE TV coverage. I would love to see a mainstream channel like NBC covering FIRST live (well except for the bumbling idiot of a comentator Bob Costas...god help us if he ever tries to do play by play 4 FIRST ;-P). One of the major problems, as Joe eluded to is that the finals are still on multiple stages and therefore it is impossible to show all of the matches on TV (or the web for that matter). I watched the Nationals over the web for the first time this past year, and it was well a patience testing expirence ;-) Finally I ended up admiting defeat and just watching Einstien (because it had the fastest internet connections devoted to it), unfortunately I missed out on a ton of matches in general and most of my team's matches. I look forward to when I can watch FIRST nationals LIVE on TV, although even LIVE TV converage will never capture the FIRST spirit ;-) So good luck to everyone making a pitch for these kind of TV centric changes, wish I could be @ the forum to back you all up.

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not in huge favor...but can see the good points

Posted by Lora Knepper.

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Posted on 8/15/2000 6:20 PM MST


In Reply to: The Case For 'Regionalizing' teams at the Nationals. posted by Joe Johnson on 8/15/2000 7:02 AM MST:



I was never one that liked the idea of 'regionalizing' the Nationals...the size of the competition was always something that set the Nats apart from Regionals in my mind...both great for their own reason.

But...I also see the need to put a 'cap' somewhere. I just don't like the idea of geographic separation, or sponsor for that matter. Probably the best way to divide the Nats in my mind is totally random... yes there are pros and cons to that, but geographic separation makes it just another regional, and sponsor separation brings the focus on the money factor.

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Re: not in huge favor...but can see the good points

Posted by Michael Ciavaglia.

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Posted on 8/17/2000 6:13 AM MST


In Reply to: not in huge favor...but can see the good points posted by Lora Knepper on 8/15/2000 6:20 PM MST:



What is the best way to separate teams into regionals? I suggest the night before the competition begins there is a placement process.

Here it is in my mind...

The sun is just about to stop gleaming off the Epcot ball. The stands are packed. The spotlights are pointed at the giant clear ball with every team's number poised to be dropped in and mixed (like a lotto drawing). The cheering and team spirit is plentiful. The antipication of the ensuing competition is mounting and contagious. Then the first ball is dropped out and Team X is in the first region. The next ball is dropped out and Team Y is in the second region.This continues until all the teams are placed.

I can see teams being ecstatic about which teams are in their regional and which teams are not. 'Wow, I am glad that we don't have to play them until the finals.' Or,'This is great, what if we pick or get picked by Team A.'

This would eliminate the controversy about how to separate teams and would definitely be totally random.

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Totally Random Regionalization!

Posted by Michael Ciavaglia.

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Posted on 8/17/2000 6:15 AM MST


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: What is the best way to separate teams into regionals? I suggest the night before the competition begins there is a placement process.

: Here it is in my mind...

: The sun is just about to stop gleaming off the Epcot ball. The stands are packed. The spotlights are pointed at the giant clear ball with every team's number poised to be dropped in and mixed (like a lotto drawing). The cheering and team spirit is plentiful. The antipication of the ensuing competition is mounting and contagious. Then the first ball is dropped out and Team X is in the first region. The next ball is dropped out and Team Y is in the second region.This continues until all the teams are placed.

: I can see teams being ecstatic about which teams are in their regional and which teams are not. 'Wow, I am glad that we don't have to play them until the finals.' Or,'This is great, what if we pick or get picked by Team A.'

: This would eliminate the controversy about how to separate teams and would definitely be totally random.

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Like that Idea =)

Posted by Lora Knepper.

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Love that idea Mike! =) You have my vote of approval!

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...my two cents...

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Posted on 8/15/2000 7:04 PM MST


In Reply to: The Case For 'Regionalizing' teams at the Nationals. posted by Joe Johnson on 8/15/2000 7:02 AM MST:



I like the idea of regionalizing Nationals to prevent what Nate was cringing at, that only teams that do well in their own Regionals would go to Nationals, an idea that has been hinted at numerous times as a solution to the growing size of the competition.

Also, I would like to see the groups stacked not-so randomly, to prevent random groupings of dominant teams. I have noticed that in past years' qualifying matches where two of the four teams were better than the other two, the better two teams were almost always in opposing alliances. This same evening-out process might hold for your grouping.

As a driver for the past few years, I have been disappointed in the diminishing opportunities to get to know other teams and team members, as a result of the National's growing size. With almost 300 teams, yet only a handful of matches apiece, it is almost impossible for teams to work together and make new friends, not to mention the growing challenge of scouting. Though regionalization would not give everyone a chance to meet each other, it would give each person the opportunity to work with strangers--with whom they are also competing--and make new friends from all over the globe, which is in my opinion one of the best parts of the FIRST program.

One other thing to think about would be whether or not teams would know before-hand who was in their group, so that maybe they could get to know their possible competition/allies. This also touches on my desire for full discretion regarding alliances, so that more strategy and teamwork would develop among teams.

...well, maybe that was more like two dollars, but...

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Re: ...another two cents... qualifying round alliances

Posted by Kirsten.

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Posted on 8/16/2000 8:04 AM MST


In Reply to: ...my two cents... posted by Ryan Shanley on 8/15/2000 7:04 PM MST:



>>'As a driver for the past few years, I have been disappointed in the diminishing opportunities to get to know other teams and team members, as a result of the National's growing size. With almost 300 teams, yet only a handful of matches apiece, it is almost impossible for teams to work together and make new friends, not to mention the growing challenge of scouting.'
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Re: ...my two cents...

Posted by Mike.

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Posted on 8/16/2000 9:33 PM MST


In Reply to: ...my two cents... posted by Ryan Shanley on 8/15/2000 7:04 PM MST:



I agree something has to be done about the size of the nationals. This was my first year participating in FIRST and when I went down to the Nats this year I was hoping to meet people and make new friends, but when I was going through out the pits asking questions and taking pictures of the other robots for my team, there was so much work to be done, I didn't have time to stop and talk and get to know the actual team and people on it because I had the other 260something teams that I had to interview. And the FIRST crew is talking about an increase in the number of teams (and don't get me wrong I think that is great)but if there are more new teams in FIRST than that means more teams going and participating in the nationals and just how much bigger can the nationals get? Its already hectic enough with trying to scout the other teams and we don't have enough time as it is to scout the ones down there already and they are talking about more for next year! Something has to be done about the craziness of nationals.
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Attempt to clarify

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Posted on 8/15/2000 9:44 PM MST


In Reply to: The Case For 'Regionalizing' teams at the Nationals. posted by Joe Johnson on 8/15/2000 7:02 AM MST:



I think that some people have misunderstood what Joe was proposing. As I read back through his original post it seems as though what he was proposing was something like this. Teams would not have to win thier regional to get to nationals. However _once at nationals_ the 300 teams would be divided by some (any) criteria. And you would have little mini copetitions so in effect each satellite stage might be it's own competition as far as qualifying rounds go. Then the winning alliance from each stage would advance to Einstien where everyone could watch the elimination and ultimately final rounds together. Hope I got that right Joe, but perhaps I misunderstood.

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Got it... (IMO) positives explained

Posted by Andy Baker.

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Posted on 8/15/2000 10:11 PM MST


In Reply to: Attempt to clarify posted by Justin on 8/15/2000 9:44 PM MST:



Justin,

You're right... what Joe's proposal did was try to rectify four problems at Nationals:
1. Make the tournament manageable from an organization standpoint (field setup, pit location, team-match assigning).
2. Let us realistically scout each other's competitors (100 teams to scout is much easier than 400 teams).
3. This enables more teams to make it to the finals, along with 'picker' teams having a easier task of choosing their alliances for the finals.
4. The added time between Q matches being over and the alliance picking would be longer in Joe's proposal, and the top 16x4 teams would have ample time to evaluate their selections.

There are some negatives, but I feel that the positives outweigh them greatly.

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Re: Got it... (IMO) positives explained

Posted by Nate Smith.

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Posted on 8/17/2000 11:13 AM MST


In Reply to: Got it... (IMO) positives explained posted by Andy Baker on 8/15/2000 10:11 PM MST:



: 3. This enables more teams to make it to the finals

My view on the decision in '99 to not have all teams advance to the finals is that FIRST is attempting to prepare us for the year that not all teams are allowed to go to nationals, based on regional performance or some other criteria. So, while I admit that it is frustrating to have a good performance and then get overlooked for elims, it's my opinion that any attempt to solve this by simply allowing more teams to advance would be a step in the wrong direction.

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My take on why...

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In Reply to: Re: Got it... (IMO) positives explained posted by Nate Smith on 8/17/2000 11:13 AM MST:



I believe that the fewer teams in the Elimination Rounds was not so much an effort to break the news to us gently that some day we would have to deal with an invitation only Nationals but more a byproduct of a number of factors.

It is my observation that FIRST is trying to avoid breaking into two or more leagues as hard as they possibly can. To that end, FIRST searched long and hard for a tourney format that could allow teams of widely varying resources to co-exist and to perhaps even flourish. FIRST really believes that the alliance format IS that format. This is the first contributing factor.

FIRST is trying as hard as possible not to have to limit the number of teams that can go to the nationals. (By the way, I have heard that, believe it or not, in coming years, Disney may build a temporary false floor over the drainage ditch near the National complex in order to allow for a larger number of teams to participate -- given the current situation, the complex can not expand much farther without bumping into this body of water). FIRST may eventually have to cry uncle, but as far as I can tell, FIRST is doing all it can to postpone that day. Every year for three years, I have heard something along the lines of, 'Next year or the year after will be the year FIRST will have to limit the Nationals.' So far it remains only a far off event. This too is a contributing factor.

FIRST is tied to a 3 day Nationals. This (together with the above goal) limits the number of matches per team, which forces FIRST to balance the number of teams in the Finals vs the number of seeding rounds. This is another contributing factor.

I believe all these contributing factors together have forced FIRST to limit the number of teams in the Elimination Rounds rather than an overall decision to prepare us for the day when the Nationals are invitation only.

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Re: My take on why...

Posted by Splash.

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Posted on 8/17/2000 3:05 PM MST


In Reply to: My take on why... posted by Joe Johnson on 8/17/2000 11:35 AM MST:



If there were more teams and hopefully, more money to FIRST so it can expand, would they be able to hire more people to run the tournament for longer each day? While I know no one wants to sit there all day, could it happen that some teams compete 10-4, some compete 12-6, and some compete 2-8. There is enough overlapping that teams would have the chance to see all the other teams in action, and also the schedule could be mixed up for more matches. This would also give teams more options while they are at Disney. Teams finishing early, could go back to the hotel early, relax at Disney, or sit and watch more competition. Teams starting early could sleep late, get in a swim, or even eat lunch before they arrived at the site (Speaking of lunch, see post under hit or miss).

I'd like to see more matches on Thursday as well. Especially if there are as many elimination rounds as there would be with the proposed 'regionalizing format.'
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