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patent information

Posted by Brandon Martus at 1/10/2001 4:32 PM EST


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Posted by Frank on 1/9/2001 10:38 PM EST:



first of all, i just want to say, this may be a big hoax.

i found this link on the MSNBC discussion boards.

it looks to be a fuzzy copy of the patent for 'IT'.

what do ya think?

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/view...d/US05971091__


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: http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp?cp1=1#BODY


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OOPS

Posted by Brandon Martus at 1/10/2001 4:35 PM EST


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Posted by Brandon Martus on 1/10/2001 4:32 PM EST:



actually...
this seems to be the early workings of the IBOT.
still pretty interesting...

this the little hand at the bottom of the patent screen to advance through the 57some pages.


: first of all, i just want to say, this may be a big hoax.

: i found this link on the MSNBC discussion boards.

: it looks to be a fuzzy copy of the patent for 'IT'.

: what do ya think?

: http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/view...d/US05971091__

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: : Who all saw the MSNBC article about Dean's new invention? Lot's of hype for sure...but what can it be? It'll make him richer than Gates and will change how cities are designed! Your own personal helicopter perhaps? The guesses are flying!

: : http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp?cp1=1#BODY


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Scooter

Posted by Justin at 1/10/2001 4:48 PM EST


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Well if you look @ the FIRST page of the pattent info it does seem to show a scooter of somtime that employs some of the same technologies, drives systems, etc. as the IBOT...as for the rest of the information that patent seem to pertain to the IBOT, best I can tell. But who knows maybe Dean is hoping to spin off some of the IBOT technology into some kind of scooter device for recreational purposes. *shurgs*

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Re: Scooter

Posted by Brandon Martus at 1/10/2001 4:50 PM EST


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yea, thats why i posted it.
i thought it was a one-page deal, and then
saw the 1 of 57 at the top (after i posted the link)

but, you're probably right. some sort of all-terrain scooter.



: Well if you look @ the FIRST page of the pattent info it does seem to show a scooter of somtime that employs some of the same technologies, drives systems, etc. as the IBOT...as for the rest of the information that patent seem to pertain to the IBOT, best I can tell. But who knows maybe Dean is hoping to spin off some of the IBOT technology into some kind of scooter device for recreational purposes. *shurgs*

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it

Posted by shaun at 1/10/2001 6:01 PM EST


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I think after reading the articals i thinks IT is a device that you can up on an present car and run off an a compont like water.
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It =

Posted by Joe Ross at 1/11/2001 3:42 AM EST


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Individual Transportation

At least that is one idea that has been thrown around at the AnandTech BBS. There are over a hundred messages right now. The two most popular ideas are either a personal helicopter type propellar system or a teleportation device.

Personally, I hope Dean gets more money than Gates.


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I changed my mind

Posted by Jason Iannuzzi at 1/12/2001 4:10 PM EST


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Posted by Frank on 1/9/2001 10:38 PM EST:



Originally, when this news first started spreading, I saw the patent application and figured it was a done deal. I thought it might be the Stirling, but the IBOT Vehicle seemed a simpler way out.

One quote changed my mind:

Kamen fears, as he states in a letter to Kemper that is included in the proposal, that “huge corporations” might catch wind of the invention and “use their massive resources to erect obstacles against us or, worse, simply appropriate the technology by assigning hundreds of engineers to catch up to us, and thousands of employees to produce it in their plants.”

I doubt anyone would fear a motorized scooter, regardless of how cool it was.

The Stirling Engine 2002 would turn the entire automotive industry on its head, and it's certainly an industry that might be able to scare DK into secrecy.

It has to be the Stirling. That's my official answer.
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Re: I changed my mind

Posted by Jason Iannuzzi at 1/12/2001 4:32 PM EST


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Of course, there's a very real possibility that this could be just a big publicity stunt for FIRST.

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Re: I changed my mind

Posted by Matt Leese at 1/12/2001 5:06 PM EST


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Um, how? Is FIRST going to have an IPO? There's the supposed part where Dean Kamen will be rich.....er, richer (then Gates!). And anyway what gain would FIRST get by misleading people? Although I would say this will most definately be a Good Thing (tm) for FIRST. I wonder how big of a sponsor of FIRST a new company making this product will be?

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my thoughts on this one...

Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/13/2001 9:36 PM EST


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here are the ff ideas:

1. if it were to out do billy, then it must be an operating system that installs over windows and works better than windows perhaps ditching the mouse, the keyboard and the interfacing the brain with the computer. (doubt it, at least not yet)

2. an energy source is a high possiblity. i bet those fellas at deka are making a product that uses organic material (especially organic waste) as a source of power. and best of all, with a byproduct that's biodegradable or even consumable...hehe. (brownies!)

3. better than a computer eh? i say a pill that will make us smarter (not needing a computer), faster, stronger, etc. hehe..... or maybe a pill that allows us to sleep less (or not at all) yet still be able to reap its benefits, and live longer. yah yah!

4. i'm not sure about the video game below, but i do say that deanie will make something revolutionary that will help the WORLD and our FUTURE. That seems to be his main goals in work.

I go with 2 and 4. 1 and 3 are possible, but maybe someone else can make that happen.... i have too much in my head.

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a kind of bike

Posted by Janna at 1/13/2001 10:19 PM EST


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Awhile ago, I was talking to an engineer about FIRST and mentioned Dean's name...and this engineer was like "Does he have a company called DEKA?" And I was like "Yes...how did you know that?!" And he gave some vague answer but after some more questions, he mentioned that his company was working on some stuff for DEKA that was top secret. And they only knew about the part they were working on, not what the entire device was, and he couldn't tell me anything further than that. But anyway...if I were to hypothetically say that this company is a tire manufacturer whose origins were in bicycle tires...would that change anything?

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yet another news story

Posted by Brandon Martus at 1/14/2001 10:25 AM EST


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heres another story on Yahoo! News about "IT"
Headline:
"Secret Invention 'Ginger' May Be Motorized Scooter"

: Who all saw the MSNBC article about Dean's new invention? Lot's of hype for sure...but what can it be? It'll make him richer than Gates and will change how cities are designed! Your own personal helicopter perhaps? The guesses are flying!

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Re: yet another news story

Posted by Steve Pierce at 1/14/2001 11:13 AM EST


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I found this info, pretty interesting:
http://howstuffworks.com/ginger.htm


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