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Unread 01-01-2003, 22:38
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THIS guy isn't even real nor is he from team 146 as far as im concerned....

Please correct me if there is a team # 146 and where are they from...
Remember that every number was a team at one point. Team 146 is (was) from Manchester. Since he's a college student, his high school team could have been anywhere.
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Yes JAlbertz joined the forums today.

Although he/she may be alumni of team 146 (team 146 Blue Lightning from NH is no longer an active team) there are still a couple contributers from this team with us in the forums.

I relize JAlbertz never said that he/she was who the information was orig sent to or where the sender would see them Saturday. I don't think I am the only one who assuemed that the information was sent direct and that they would see each other at the NH kickoff. If this is the case, why would a member of an inactive team be going to kickoff?

And checkout a recent post from Justin it does mention oppostire things, but it is interesting that he would post out of the blue about the game and then this post a day later.

I love this investigative junk....

Rumors, rumors, rumors. Got to love 'em and hate 'em
It just builds the excitment for kickoff.
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The innovation first control system manual (updated 12/20/02) says 12V for the RC.
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Unread 02-01-2003, 08:30
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THere is also a version of the Victors specific to 24V, if you look into some of the battlebot threads, overvolting specific motors (ones that can handle it without self distructing) can give a huge power boost. Also the motor to have is the 24V DeWalt Hammerdrill so maybe if we aren't getting BOSCH's this year they are stepping up to some more serious motors.

In the near future automotive will also be stepping up from what I hear it may be up to 48V.
From a Dewalt engineer, I've been told that the Bosch drill motors are virtually the same as what Dewalt uses. I think there's more difference in the gear box than anything else.

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Unread 02-01-2003, 08:32
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Remember that every number was a team at one point.
Not quite. For instance there was never a team 3 (well, at least with the numbering system we have now; there probably was one before permanent numbers). There also never was a team 666.

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Unread 02-01-2003, 10:01
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Acchhhhh I know that team they live down under if you get what I'm saying.
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Also it is kinda interesting how this "JalBERt" guy posted this idea and hasn't even tried to defend it. Maybe FIRST hunted him down for exposing such vital information.
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Unread 02-01-2003, 11:18
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perhaps instead of 1 24v battery, we will use 2 12vs. This would allow us to use more juice, but wouldnt require much tweaking. It wouldnt be as exciting as extra volts, but it would allow our bots to last longer. Not that 2 min is a long time, but we did have to make sure we didnt over tax the battery.

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Unread 02-01-2003, 12:04
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perhaps instead of 1 24v battery, we will use 2 12vs. This would allow us to use more juice, but wouldnt require much tweaking. It wouldnt be as exciting as extra volts, but it would allow our bots to last longer. Not that 2 min is a long time, but we did have to make sure we didnt over tax the battery.
That would add about 14 more pounds to the robot. And we would need another charger.
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Unread 02-01-2003, 12:05
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Well, even if this is true, a few problems arise.

Through the scavenger hunt style research a few of us have done, there is no solid evidence that there is, or isn't, a "Seth" in Woodie's 2.973 Ind. Study class. Or even that Woodie teaches independant study.. or even that it is a classroom format.

Something a bit more problematic is that JAlbertz email from this elusive character states Woodie is revealing the game to people in a classroom format. I doubt he is so naive to think they can't contact other specific teams, or teams in mass (as JAlbertz may have just done).

Also, people whom work for FIRST are under Non-Disclosure Agreement when it comes to the games. Why would FIRST's national advisor express the game's specifics to certain people without agreements...

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They wouldn't, legally, be able to do anything to him. However, IF there is a Seth, and there is a 2.973 taught by Woodie.. I'm sure some 'Flower Power' would be in order. First, duct tape him to the wall and then I don't think Seth will be recieving a grade that would make his grandmother proud.

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Unread 02-01-2003, 12:09
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Something doesn't add up. His information is a combination of all of the rumors we have heard before and some of them are probably not even true. Yet these claims of the game are so reasonable, they could be true. Hrm, lets keep quiet and wait less than 48 hrs and see if this person is right. If so, Ill be in shock. If not I will have a good laugh at this individual.

Heh, Dr Joe in 2001, Seth in 2003??
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Unread 02-01-2003, 12:13
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Well, even if this is true, a few problems arise.

Through the scavenger hunt style research a few of us have done, there is no solid evidence that there is, or isn't, a "Seth" in Woodie's 2.973 Ind. Study class. Or even that Woodie teaches independant study.. or even that it is a classroom format.
Well, 2.973 is an independent study. Independent study isn't 'taught' by a professor, traditionally. Instead, it functions as a way for students to receive credit for completing research projects. They ally themselves with any professor in the department who may be conducting similar research. <i>If</i> your independent study involved designing FIRST games, Dr. Flowers would be the person to study under.

I spoke with a friend who attends MIT. There is no way of finding out who is enrolled in any courses.

EDIT: Oh, yeah . . . the people that go to MIT are, traditionally, really, really smart. They don't like to fail and usually can't afford to fail. Independent study sections are usually no more than 3 students. So, this kid failed his course
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They would have to use all new motors too if the system ran on 24 V.

I will admit this is an EXCELLENT rumor however true or untrue it may be.
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I hope it's not true, I honestly do, That would mean there is someone out there with access to the game specifics before kickoff and is willing to release the information ahead of time.

If this is true, I think a burning at the stake is in order.
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Hello Everyone,

Last I checked Team 146 was formerly Team Bluelightning from Manchester West High School (I would know as I was on that team). The team disband in 2000 after the sponsor PSNH had to pull out. Manchester West High School is now sponsored by FCI and chose to take a Rookie number. It is possible that FIRST may have assigned 146 to new rookie team out on the West coast, this would greatly sadden me, but last I knew they were retiring old numbers.

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