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Re: PUSH to Simplify the Game for 2002 ***Attention FIRST **

Posted by Patrick Dingle at 04/19/2001 3:14 PM EST


College Student on team #639, Red B^2, from Ithaca High School and Cornell University.


In Reply to: Re: PUSH to Simplify the Game for 2002 ***Attention FIRST **
Posted by Matt Leese on 04/19/2001 2:05 PM EST:



I agree with both Andy and Matt on this one... I don't think there's much more to cover... but I think I'd like to point out that as a rookie team, many of our students were disappointed in this year's game, and frankly there was much less enthusiasm this year about FIRST than i've ever seen before. The few teams that actually did cheer in the stands were likely not even doing it because they were excited about the game -- but because there is an award for making noise. I just don't see the logic in this one -- isn't inspiring students a whole lot more important than this everyone-work-together nonsense that seems to turn more people away than anything? Anyway back to the point -- i agree the game is way to complex and I believe that is why it is so difficult to get any sort of publicity.

Patrick

: I agree with you completely. I think the impact of a
: simplified game would not only be for the media
: however. 73 had not been in competition since 1998 and
: after the game was released, a comment made by one of
: the teachers who had previously participated (from
: '93-'98) said that the game was just to complex. I
: also was told that one of our students made the comment
: that the SME Robotics Competition was more interesting
: than FIRST. The game this year had some neat ideas
: (balancing the bridge was one of them), but it tried to
: do too much. I highly doubt that we'll see simpler
: games with 4 robots to an alliance because if that were
: to happen there wouldn't be much for all the robots to
: do. It's also much harder to explain how you win
: without any onfield competition (it took my team until
: week 3 or 4 to understand). I think that more than
: anything this year will be a learning experience for
: FIRST about what works and what doesn't.

: Matt who hopes that FIRST learns the right things from
: this years competition....


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