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Oh man so much to reply to - well you guys posted YOUR bias opinions. Time for me to post mine, eh? I wish some posts could be made without jumping to a "who's better than who" Well, let me address some stuff without sounding like im flaming..just answering some comments thats all. Can't we just be civil and have a discussion without saying a FIRST bot is more sophisiticated? I can tell you right now that is WRONG. Just look at robots like Mechadon, Warhead, Snake, etc. Those are beautifully crafted machines...much more sophisticated than any FIRST robot in my opinion. You can't tell me mechadon isn't cool - it's a spider and each body section moves individually, it rolls, and it can walk like a spider. Mechadon and the Snake were made by a man that makes robots for movies (He made some for MIB, I can call those off the top of my head.) Warhead well, look him up, that robot is amazing. It's first appearance was last may...I can't explain how cool it is.

"i'm sure if we went up against a battle bot, we'd be able to push them around with no problem. but, if we were to get pushed into say a killsaw, it's all over. treads, gone. wheels, pretty much gone. "

Well, lets take this by weight class first. A First robot would qualify as a Heavyweight but to be fair I'll place it as a middleweight, 120 lbs being the max weight there. Very commonly used motors in battlebots are 24 v dewalt motors, NPC Motors(npcrobotics.com), magmotors (yes, for drive, www.robotbooks.com), and they're running at 24 volts. Due to the lack of limitation on the motors you can use and having a max operating voltage of 24-36, I can tell you that most battlebots WILL push around your first bot, without much effort too.

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"all in all i think the quality of the first bots are much better than battle bots... of course we have how many actual engineers and big corporations backing us... imagine if some big corporation had a robot built and entered it into battle bots... because of funding it would probably be quite good."

"yeah if a big corperation sponsored a battle but but they probably wont because battlebots isnt nearly as good as FIRST."

Wrong! Sony, Microsoft, Lincoln Welders, Comedy Central, Bosch(the providers of your drill motors), and many other companies I just wont bother to list. The list is huge there are MANY corporate sponsors vying to sponsor a battlebot. My team is currently talking to a big biomedical company (And yes - they do sponsor a FIRST team.). Sorry, I just had to get rid of this misconception.

"yes, FIRST robots tend to be more sophisticated in some ways, but battle bots always seem to look nicer (like cleaner and slightly more proffesional). now, we all have to remember, each robot is designed for a different purpose, so each will do one thing great, and pretty much suck at others. "

I love your mentality. You made a post without bashing either side. Thank you - atleast some people here post without any bias. You have to understand they are two DIFFERENT competitions with similar goals.

I love the idea - there are a lot of great minds in both sports. In fact some of those benefit from competing in both. I think it'd be interesting. Now that there is BBIQ there are high schools competing in a battlebots competition as well as FIRST. Many of those people in the pit next to you may have even been there. It's good to be open minded...I just wish that the bias and superiority complex was non-existant.

Wow, long post, thanks for reading if you did =)

-Dallin
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