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Re: important skills

Posted by Chris Orimoto at 2/5/2001 12:38 AM EST


Student on team #368, Kika Mana, from McKinley High School and Nasa Ames/Hawaiian Electric/Weinberg Foundation.


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Posted by shaun on 2/4/2001 10:21 PM EST:



Actually, I don't think that picking up the big ball is going to be an "essential" skill. I think that it is important to focus on a couple or a few skills and be able to do them very well. This gives you a good chance at being picked for an alliance in the elimination rounds, or, in fact, being the one picking alliances.

In my humble opinion, I think that MANY teams are working on balancing the bridge. I haven't heard much toward picking up small balls as of yet. A surprising amount of robots shall be able to cross to the other side of the field via means other than the bridge.

So, besides all this rambling, what do I think is the most important skill? Well, although it may not be much of a "skill" but I think that a robot absolutely NEEDS to be able to get into the endzone. It does sound simple, but it's pretty much the easiest 10 points you can get.

Just my personal thoughts...

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consistancy

Posted by Joe Ross at 2/5/2001 1:32 AM EST


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It doesn't really matter what you do, IMO, as long as you can do it consistantly.

Besides that, for the qualifying rounds, the most important thing a robot can do is balance two goals, since that is what gets you the most points.

For the elimination rounds, as long as you have a specialty, you will be a valuable partner.


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being partners

Posted by Ken Leung at 2/5/2001 3:30 AM EST


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Posted by Joe Ross on 2/5/2001 1:32 AM EST:



: For the elimination rounds, as long as you have a specialty, you will be a valuable partner.

I am not so sure about that. Besides being a special robot, you will ALWAYS need to work well along with other robots to be part of an alliance. Say you can put small balls in a goal by tipping it over, then that's a special robot. But when you are tipping the goal over and it gets in the way of other robot all the time, chances are, other teams are not going to pick you.

Well, this is just an example anyway... I am sure teams are going to design their robot so they won't be "in the way" of other robot. But since teams don't know what kind of robot other people will be building, it's pretty hard to design robots to work together perfectly.

That's why top seed teams are going to pick partners when going into finals... they will just have to rely on chances that there is this robot somewhere out, and that robot will be perfect together in an alliance.

-Ken Leung

I am all for prefect alliance and not perfect individual robots.



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consistency is not the only key...

Posted by Erin at 2/5/2001 6:59 AM EST


Other on team #65, Huskie Brigade, from Pontiac Northern High School and GM Powertrain.


In Reply to: important skills
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I don't think that being able to pick up the big ball will be part of having a consistent high score. If you are always with an alliance that gets 2 big balls (no matter what team), gets both goals up, and at least 3 robots in the end zone, 15 seconds before the match is over, and you can do it AGAIN AND AGAIN (i know this is a long sentence hold your beath) then I think that they will be the ones who win.

"Simplicity is the Key"

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consistency is DEFINATELY NOT the key

Posted by bill whitley at 2/5/2001 6:54 PM EST


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Posted by Erin on 2/5/2001 6:59 AM EST:



This is my teams 4th year, and we have been extremely consistent over the previous three years. Anyone who knows of my team can vouch for that. We have been consistently BAD. More important than being consistent, you have to have a decent robot.

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uhm, misinterpretation...

Posted by Erin at 2/6/2001 7:56 AM EST


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In Reply to: consistency is DEFINATELY NOT the key
Posted by bill whitley on 2/5/2001 6:54 PM EST:



Bill,

Your my friend and everything, but what I was talking about was GOOD CONSISTENCY. I meant the consistency to get a high score. if you read my post again, you might get it that way. im not talking about consistency in a bad way, of couse i knew that doesn't get you anywhere...

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Re: important skills

Posted by Tom at 2/5/2001 5:11 PM EST


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Posted by shaun on 2/4/2001 10:21 PM EST:



Going over the bar probably the best strategy this year, mostly because:

a)It leaves room for building upward, unlike going under the bar where you are cramped for space.

b) In the long run it saves the time for reseting the bridge for another robot to go over.

c)having the abiliy to be taller and not use the bridge makes it easier to balance the bridge. You have more control of the bridge with a taller & wider robot drawing the goals further in to the center of the bridge, and bringing the center of gravity down.

With all of that I predit that the final alliance will have 2 robots that go over the bar (one that can balance & one that can place a big ball) and two that need the bridge to cross and pick up little balls.


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Thnk man think!

Posted by Joe Johnson at 2/5/2001 8:49 PM EST


Engineer on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central High School and Delphi Automotive Systems.


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Posted by Tom on 2/5/2001 5:11 PM EST:



"Taller" and "bringing the center of gravity down" do
not belong in the same paragraph.

Think about it.

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Re: Thnk man think!

Posted by PAUL GIANNOSA at 2/5/2001 10:23 PM EST


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: "Taller" and "bringing the center of gravity down" do
: not belong in the same paragraph.

: Think about it.

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