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Football Rules

Every year ther is some kind of time limit. Non-stop always going. Football on the other hand is different. The clock stops and you can call time outs. Smaller robots would be cool since you could fit more on on field. Plus First has really limited the max robots to 4. Oh and the little hint did mention groans, suprises, and a revamping of the entire game concept.

Football sounds good to me. Really good


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If you take a slinkey and hold it in two hands it makes a parabola, just a thought
Actually, a slinky (or rope or chain) held freely will appear to take the shape of a parabola, but it is really a catenary which comes from the hyperbolic cosine function: f(x) = a cosh(x/a).

The St. Louis Arch is an example of an "upside down" catenary.

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Anyone remember that demo they showed during the kickoff last year (2002), where they had the two first guys take that parabola shaped launcher, tip it to the side and roll balls up it and launch them at the goal with fairly good accuracy??

Could that have been some kind of hint or something?
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Actually, a slinky (or rope or chain) held freely will appear to take the shape of a parabola, but it is really a catenary
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anyone thought that maybe since we're moving to a football stadium for nationals might mean that football could have some connection to this year's game....just a thought
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Football

I think footballs also.
The 8 1/2" Power Spiral Football that is on Http://www.pooftoys.com/ are very durable. They actually have some low plastic coating on them that stops them from coming apart. (doesn't it bring back the little kid days).
Those slinkys would break/snap way to easy and would cost first way to much to repace 1-2 every match

Next think we should think about is surface?? Grass????? Artificial Turf???
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It's a minor point, but the doc does say that there will be human players again this year (or at least there are operator badges for them!). From this, I'd guess that once again we're going to be throwing something into goals, etc. And AJ made a very interesting point: there are definately little footballs in the power-up video.
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It's a minor point, but the doc does say that there will be human players again this year (or at least there are operator badges for them!). From this, I'd guess that once again we're going to be throwing something into goals, etc. And AJ made a very interesting point: there are definately little footballs in the power-up video.
Keep in mind that the Power Up video is comprised of footage taken during the 2002 Kickoff and its Rookie workshops.

In that workshop, rookie teams used the EduRobot kits to simulate the build cycle, ending in a miniature combination.

So, just keep that in mind. . . footballs may have been on FIRST's mind for awhile, but they didn't have the game planned in January of last year
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It makes sense my friends! Small foam balls or footballs and the cryptic clue... "y = ax(2) + bx + c," for projectile motion.

We will use the foam balls as the projectiles and use the formula to calculate how to throw these balls. Plus these balls are kinda small and are soft in case someone gets hit. Just maybe the field will have clear side walls like Battle Bots.


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footballs maybe for the human player, but it highly doubt for the robots to handle, they aren't a very nice shape, too wide one way and skinny the other way
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When were these trucks spotted?

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Please note the deadline for making your Kit Pick Up/Delivery and Kickoff Attendance selections was Friday, December 13th, 2002. We apologize but we are no longer able to make any changes to your selections as the kits are now packed and on pallets. Any changes from this point forward would require us to break open sealed pallets.

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So, if these trucks were only spotted this week, there stands a chance that the trucks have nothing nothing to do with this year's game.

Instead, maybe they were dropping off supplies for the Rookie Workshops?
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Umm I don't believe the equation on the first site is quadratic even though it looks like it unless its a typo. You use ^ symbol to show that something is being raised to a power not parenthesis. Parenthesis just mean in math that you multiply ax and two together. Of course It could be a typo or a trick.
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aaarrrgg... I should just use my time machine & go ahead 15 days & see what the competition is. Blast that gracious professionalism it keeps my ethics in place & keeps me right here in old 2002.
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