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Originally posted by Andy A.
If I'm teamed with a damaged robot against an allience I know I can't beat, you bet I'm going to try to cut a deal. Its absured not to. If all I can do is pick up balls and I'm against two goal handlers with no help, whats the point? They can win. They know they can win. They know I know they can win. They can't really manipulate the scores accuratly so they will jsut grab all three goals and that will be it.
I would NOT cut a deal. I would try for the unexpected, ambitious move. It will get you known, and respected (not that you guys need it) as a team that knows strategy, and knows how to play the game. Also, sometimes if you are crazy enough... you'll have everyone talking.

In the case you mentioned, knowing the strengths of your robot: I would have picked up the balls on one side of the field. Gone toward my goal zone, and pretended to die (hit the kill button). Then when the other team attempts to balance the score for QP's they will inevitably put a goal in my score zone. When there are approx 10 seconds left. I restart the robot, gun it over to the goal. Dump my balls, and pin the goal against the wall, or if I'm ambitious run for the home zone.

The score is:
ME- 20 balls, 1 goal, 1 robot = 40
THEM - 2 goals, 2 robots, no balls = 40

If I get more HP points than them. Or if I lure one of their robots out of the home zone at the last second. I win.

This would allow for a 120+ win in a match that "couldn't be won." I assure you, with cunning, especially with a robot of the caliber of 95(2002) the most unlikely of matches can be won. Especially this year where there are SOOOO MANY defensive moves that can be made. The score can be adjusted in huge ways in the last 15 seconds. Someone said (Meaubry I think): "This game will be won and lost in the first and last 15 seconds." I completely agree with this statement. Why limit yourself when you can pull off the win.

So... why cut the deal?

It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.
Play to win.

There are arguments for either case. But I feel strongly that this is the way to be. When I'm coaching, 229 will only deal in the most DIRE of circumstances.
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