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What team had the best human player?

Well my team 973 had a great human player at the soCal regionals. She placed the boxes in a spot which didn't allow the "ford" robot to position itself on the ramp. The bot was slitghly crooked which allowed our bot to get past its one-way screen.
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Team 61 Human player could stack 8 in 8 sec. At PA competition they gave the human player 5 bins a piece our human player stacked 9 high in less than 10 seconds.

We will see at WPI competition they have a event that will show who can stack the highest stack.
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I think I did a pretty good job
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Ours.
She is steady and sure. Does her job efficently and L Ro is a fine chioce for prom queen as well.
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Ok so how are we basing this descion on. I mean i know the human players had importnat part. I mean are human player was also are strategist. So after placing hte boxes he would yell at me and the ohter driver and tell us what to do. Are first human player lost his voice, so the second day are back up had to go up
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Hey this is dumb...nobody saw all of the human players and some of the human players and their friends/coaches testimonies might exaggerate what they really are able to do.

Plus like Ryan said there are so many factors that went into a good human player such as:

*Speed
*Stacking ability
*Speed of Stacking
*Not being penalized for bin tosses/leaving the carpet
*Making it back in 10 seconds
*One of the most important is how the human player handled the situation as the 2nd coach per say. That factor was the most underrated feature of the human player that didnt get noticed by many people, but helped decide the winner and the loser.

There are too many things to look for to even begin to judge so I say lets drop this dicussion before it turns stupid.
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Ya personally i think its to hard to rate a human player. Because they are the second coach on the field. I mean you might not appreciate them as much as i do, they got me out of alot of jams. They where like a chess player. While i concentrated on the movement of the robot. They set up are next move. Instead fo trying to rate the best human player. How aobut nameing your human player and telling us what he did good for you guys.

I will start

ARe human player was Isaac

He was fast at stacking bins and doing what we needed and getting aback within the 10 secs so we could do are auto. What i like him most for is how he was a good coach. Looking at the wide perspective as i looked at the narrow. He would set up are next move. Which took alot a stress of the drivers like me.

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Well, our human player was named Jeff... yup, that's me...

I was good at getting the job done. I rarely ever did anything fancy, but you could count on me to get my four out there and placed properly every time. Out of 50-some matches I played, I only had one mistake, so that's pretty good. As a coach, I would watch the scores along with our coach Stephanie. We made a good team, and kept our drivers focused and informed. The four of us worked very well, and that was the key to our success.
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Hey this is dumb...nobody saw all of the human players and some of the human players and their friends/coaches testimonies might exaggerate what they really are able to do.

Plus like Ryan said there are so many factors that went into a good human player such as:

*Speed
*Stacking ability
*Speed of Stacking
*Not being penalized for bin tosses/leaving the carpet
*Making it back in 10 seconds
*One of the most important is how the human player handled the situation as the 2nd coach per say. That factor was the most underrated feature of the human player that didnt get noticed by many people, but helped decide the winner and the loser.

There are too many things to look for to even begin to judge so I say lets drop this dicussion before it turns stupid.
All of the "Who has the best..." thread are stupid. They're not for the sake of determining who does the best at what given task, than it more or less determines what team I like the most, what team I wish I was on, what team I heard the most about, ect.
It's a dopey popularity contest to either vote for your own team or your friends and nothing more. Let's just have fun with it and let sink to the back pages when we're done with it.
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I would like to complement 930's human player. He did his task well, even if they were simple stacks. After talking with him, i knew that he would be a valuable asset behind the controls, coaching the driver. I hope to see you at IRI.
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I have to agree with Mike Norton...team 61's Human Player consistently stacked 8 high not only at the UCF Regional but also in off-season competitions.
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I DONT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN STACK 8 BOXES MAKES YOU A GREAT HUMAN PLAYER. I THINK WE HAD TWO GOOD HUMAN PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY COULD CALCULATE THE SCORE AMAZINGLY FAST (SOPHMORES IN CALCULUS) AND THOUGHT OF GOOD STARTEGIES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR PLAYERS WERE THE BEST, BUT THEY DID A GOOD JOB AND THEY SHOULD KNOW I PLAN TO TAKE THEIR JOB NEXT YEAR (I HOPE )
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I DONT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN STACK 8 BOXES MAKES YOU A GREAT HUMAN PLAYER. I THINK WE HAD TWO GOOD HUMAN PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY COULD CALCULATE THE SCORE AMAZINGLY FAST (SOPHMORES IN CALCULUS) AND THOUGHT OF GOOD STARTEGIES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR PLAYERS WERE THE BEST, BUT THEY DID A GOOD JOB AND THEY SHOULD KNOW I PLAN TO TAKE THEIR JOB NEXT YEAR (I HOPE )
That is exactly what I think makes a good human player. When you can ask you're human player to calculate the scores, and to know every possible strategy. I think that in some ways the human player is the drivers brain. When that human player gets back behind the glass, he needs to know the game inside and out. He/She needs to know exactly what the best way to get the most QP's are, and also how "not to cut it to close". Just because you can build an 8 stack in 8 seconds, doesn't mean you are a good human player. It might mean that you're very athletic, but not necessarily a good human player.

Another important quality is to know what you are going against. The human player should know a lot about the robots that are going to be at their regional or devision at the national event. It is always better to have more information then you need, then not enough. I know that I spent my weekends leading up to the regionals, watching NASA tv, and the on-line web-casts. I also watched a good majority of the matches close up. For those of you that were at Evanston, I was the one right on the side of the court with my monocular looking at every angle of every bot.

I think that every human player deserves a hand, for being the best of their team. I hope to see some good human players at IRI.
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Greg very well said. i agree totally
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there were a lot of great human players out there, but you've gotta give the team spirit award for a human players to our human player josh. those of you who were on the newton field at nationals may remember him as the one with the multicolored mohawk and the dance when he got to the side pad. he also never made the stacks fall down (always a plus).
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