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Re: Re: what are you talking about????????????

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Yes, the registration for the FIRST competition costs more than it does to register for Battlebots. But given what it costs to put on a competition event, the teams are getting a bargain. With FIRST, the teams pay more but the organization has complete control over the conduct and presentation of the event. The FIRST events appear to the public as high-quality, high-energy operations with professional conduct. FIRST, and the teams, get to control their own fate and how they are presented to the public.

With Battlebots, the teams pay less, but in exchange for the lower registration fee, the TV producers pick up the costs that the teams are not paying and take control of the public presentation of the event. A Battlebots competition can be just as high-quality and high-energy as a FIRST competition. But then Comedy Central gets to add on a layer of insipid commentary, a brain-dead bouncing hostess, meaningless "insights" into robot-building, and enough tacky crap to make even Bill Nye run away in order to sell commercials on the broadcast. Teams need to understand the trade-offs between the lower registration cost and the "dignity cost" of the Comedy Central presentation of Battlebots, and basically do their own cost/benefit analysis to see if it is worth it (note that I make a BIG DISTINCTION here between how Greg and Trey originally wanted to present Battlebots, and how Comedy Central trashed it up to turn it into the WWF of robotics).

-dave
I'd have to say I agree with you completely. It's really disappointing how Comedy Central completely changed the way that Trey and Greg wanted to represent Battlebots. It's one of the costs of working with a TV network, especially one like Comedy Central which is the host of South Park, Crank Yankers, and The Man show. It's sad that the way Battlebots is portrayed causes many engineers and robotics enthusiasts to see Battlebots in a negative way, I'm glad that someone can see through this and find value in what Trey and Greg attempted to do. I think that they are attempting to redeem themselves with Battlebots IQ though, as both of the events were completely paid for by them and I am sure that they will have much more involvement when it comes time to actually air it on TV, if at all. Hopefully, whatever network Battlebots and BBIQ end up on, will give them a better representation than the trash that comedy central gave them.

It's sad that these events are so expensive and that those are the two major trade-offs, although by participating I do not feel that I have had any loss in dignity. I compete because I enjoy it and I will better myself by competing. In addition, the atmosphere at the competition makes it totally worth while. I know that holding the events is real expensive as the shipping of the actual battlebox has had a major influence on where BBIQ 2.0 was held and where BBIQ 3.0 will be held, it's extremely expensive to ship and rebuild it. And although Battlebots has remained dormant for quite some time now, Combat Robotics has not. There are currently over 20 regional events listed in the RFL for all the weight classes all over the nation. It's amazing that the entrance fees are so low, especially when they are not being sponsored by any TV networks or anything of that sort. I mean you really can't go wrong with 85 bucks being the most expensive to register a 340 lb robot.
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