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Unread 04-08-2003, 10:47
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Lack of mac bashing?? Didn't you see that hilarous video AJ Quick posted a link to?

I frankly don't care whether I'm using a Windows or Mac machine to program in PBASIC! I'll use whatever I have available.
Yeah some people are still immature, that know little to nothing about the mac.

Anyways I have to agree with monsieurcoffee that for programming it really isn't all that different. It is basically a text editor that can transfer data to the RC. However you have to have a USB to serial converter for either a mac or new wintel machine to transfer. So basically it is whatever you can find.

I really do hope that next year controller will have a USB connection for ease of use, and the fact that the serial port is fading away in Wintel machines (especially laptops)

But it is nice that it is possible to have a native program for the mac that can program.
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Unread 04-08-2003, 15:39
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Okay- I guess we just programmed our 2.0 code wrong. We were using that funny goto if structure the whole time we were programming in 2.0.
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Yeah some people are still immature, that know little to nothing about the mac.
Yeah... because those people have probably never used a Mac before.
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I thought the movie clip was hilarious though the guy was talking about os x and os 9 issues. Pretty well made video. A few things weren't all that accurate though.
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OK here is a video about Microsoft

http://ms.powermac99.com/
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I don't understand that one.. it is a video of Microsoft's quite cool museum, and all the PC worlds achievments.
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I don't understand that one.. it is a video of Microsoft's quite cool museum, and all the PC worlds achievments.
Um.... did you notice:

The Mac in the video?

And exactly what of the PC world's achievements are you referring to? They are few and far between, and mostly ripoffs of Apple anyhow.

Plus, of course, realize that Apple is a PC maker too... "PC" stands for "Personal Computer" of which Apple's computers have always been the most personal.....
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I really do hope that next year controller will have a USB connection for ease of use, and the fact that the serial port is fading away in Wintel machines (especially laptops)
if they continue to use ANY of the stamp type microcontrollers, the serial port is most likely to stay. They are all natively programmed through serial, and there is nothing IF can do about that except to build in a USB to serial converter, which is not likley.
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I knew someone was going to insult my intelligence once again in this thread by telling me that.. I was going to say IBM compatibles just to be more correct.
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Heheh I read a very interesting article about how apple was very successful at including the equivalent of spam inside of one of there programs. Personally I think that the whole mac vs pc argument is asinine.
I am not here to start an argument or whatnot, but what the heck are you talking about? Apple doesn't have any type of spam in any of there applications, trust me. In fact there Mail application filters it out.

The only nagware I know that Apple has is for QuickTime Basic.
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I knew someone was going to insult my intelligence once again in this thread by telling me that.. I was going to say IBM compatibles just to be more correct.
That term is so outdated, that it could even stand for a Mac. IBM makes PPC chips for Apple since the 601. With the introduction of the G5, Apple glorifies that there is an IBM chip inside.

IBM is mainly in the Unix business (Linux, Mac OS X, etc) now against Microsoft. So an "IBM compatible machine" could mean anything these days.

The proper term is “Wintel” meaning Windows Intel Machine. Even though AMD makes x86 chips.
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I've watched that video a couple times and found it to be quite hillarious....

"This handle here is so you can attach a chain and use it as a boat anchor!!"

lol good stuff Personally, I've never had a mac.. but my friend did and I used it..... I don't ever plan to own a mac. But more power to you mac programmers out there.
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I am not here to start an argument or whatnot, but what the heck are you talking about? Apple doesn't have any type of spam in any of there applications, trust me. In fact there Mail application filters it out.
Sorry I was being very vague about that. It was an article about intergrating commercial transactions into ordianry applications. It was just a warning that it could get ugly like email spam if it doesn't remain tasteful like the two examples below. It basically talked about apple's iTunes and how it had intergrated a music store and then it went on to Microsoft about how it was doing the same thing on its operating system.
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The proper term is “Wintel” meaning Windows Intel Machine. Even though AMD makes x86 chips.
Until usage catches up with "Wintel", I'll stick with "PC" and "IBM compatible". "Wintel" still seems too new and ostentatious (dare I say proper? ) for my taste.
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I got excited when I saw the posts on this thread earlier. My son had a nice Mac PowerBook laptop which he took to Houston, but by then we were using PBasic 2.0 so we still couldn't use his laptop.

Anyone have any idea when we will be able to program in 2.0 on the Mac? (I cannot see us going back to PBasic 1.3.) I would love it if I could use my own Mac next year. Also my son now has the latest Mac PowerBook laptop with a 17 wide screen.

Also has anyone tried using Virtual PC or some other Windows emulator on their OS X Mac to program in PBasic 2.0?
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