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My Opinions:

Everyone should go to nationals.
Yes, it's true. In an ideal world, every team should be allowed to go to nationals, so that they all get to experience the "big show" of FIRST. This will not happen. I mean, cmon guys. No matter how many times we say it, FIRST is going to have to limit nationals in some way. Otherwise, Dave wouldn't be asking for our opinions on how to limit nationals, he'd just be saying "Yay, everyone goes this year!"

I didn't see any such post.
So, barring the above:

Everyone should get the chance to experience nationals.
Note: this is not the same as the above. Barring the "everyone can go", we have "everyone can go, at least once every 2 years." Now... there has been a lot of whining about this, but, at the risk of breaking with the 'popular' opinion... I LIKE THE EVEN/ODD SYSTEM. Face it, people can complain all they want how they got "shut out of nationals" but, I won't cry for them knowing that next year, they will get their "free ride".

Teams that build strong robots should go to nationals.
Yes, it's true. I'm one of those people that thinks the BEST robots should be at the big-show. Everyone else is a bonus. How do we decide which robots are the "best"? Well... how about with the current qualification system? Seems like a good plan to me.

The only problem with this is... even after going to multiple regionals, some of the "best" robots might not get recognized. (everyone has bad luck). A possible solution to this, is to overhaul the judging/award process. But, this is a completely different problem.


Summary:
I like the current system. It allows for everyone to experience nationals (even if you only go once every 2 years). It also rewards the *best* robots, and makes the nationals competition competitive. I think overall, it works well.

Again, in my opinion. The only major problems stem from the judging/award process. There has been a lot of talk about how this process needs to be reformed, and I won't go into too much detail here (I'll save it for another thread ) Basically, what it boils down to is: If FIRST is going to make the awards "worth" something. They need to make sure they ALWAYS go to the right teams. We've all heard the horror stories. Let's keep this from happening in the future.


Dave,
When can we expect the "final word" on some of this?


Thank you,

John

PS - I think I chimed in way more than my allotted $.02 this time. Sorry for ranting.
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