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Originally posted by collin234


we didn't. if you booked a WDC subsideized package you had to pay even more for meaningless crap that Walt thinks i can't live without.


I am quoting the entire body of a message I'd written several months ago, outlining the cost of a Disney package versus what you might achieve on your own - booking under normal conditions.

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Our team opted for the 5 day package at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort.

The cost? $443.69 per person assuming four people to a room.

If I were to book this same thing independently, accounting for everything included in the package, for four people, this is what I came up with:

Room: Regular season rate of $154/night. We'll round to $160 and be generous about hotel taxes and things.

So, one hotel room for four nights - $616.00

Park Media: Four day park hopper pass, adult rate - $203.52 +tax. I'm ignoring tax.

So, passes for four people - $814.08

Food: The package provides for 3 breakfast coupons and 3 lunch/dinner coupons per person. I'm assuming prices, and being a bit generous here. So, I'm making each meal coupon a value of $10.

6 meals, four people, $10 per meal - $240.00

Commemorative Gift: We get a t-shirt.

4 T-shirts @$20 - $80.00

Grand total? $1750.08
Price per person? $437.52

What're we paying again? $443.69. ~$5 more.

So, as best as I can see (unless I'm overlooking something huge here), things on the Disney end of things seem Kosher. This neglects to mention of course, the costs passed on to each person to cover the costs associated with the event's infrastructure, and all of the rippling costs that Disney and FIRST presumably absorb.

Seems like a good deal to me.

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You can find that thread ]here.

Essentially, what this proves is that the price of the package is no different than booking the same thing on your own - except that the package includes a group discount which lowers the overall price, and then adds the $75 event fee, bringing the total to about the same.

In the end? Book through Disney and get the same price as if you booked on your own, but also help to pay for the overhead cost of running the event. Book on your own, possibly save money, and be assesssed a $75 fee.

This is, to quote Mr. Willy Wonka, "clear as crystal." The numbers don't lie, I'm afraid. If you don't want the t-shirt or the meal coupons, book on your own, pay the event fee, and be done with it.

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i can't help what they do and don't get from my money. if they only get 30 from everybody's original 75 we still have to pay the 75. if i charged $50 for a crappy shirt i couldn't justify it by saying, well, i only get 25 from it, the rest goes to fund the free coffee in the executive board room.
Again, forgive me for assuming something about this discussion. Disney operates at a loss for this event. They make no money whatsoever from the event itself. You pay $75. From that, $30 goes to party. An additional $10, perhaps, goes to setting up the tents, $5 to providing bus transportation, $5 to paying Mandy Moore, and $25 goes to staff salaries. There is no profit.

So, given that, your example is extraneous.


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competition site, remember the fairly large blue tent?
. . . i can and i was appauled


As Ricky has previously mentioned, I'm fairly certain that the meal coupons provided you with more food per dollar that you might otherwise receive. Without the meal coupons, caveat emptor.

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this has gone way beyond intelligent discussion.


Again, allow me refer to another post. Mike Soukup hit the nail on the head here. Thanks, Mike.

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cool word the first time...not so cool anymore (use a thesaurus)


Well, again keeping in mind what Mike has written, allow me to further point out that I don't need the aid of a thesaurus to make my arguments seem powerful and intelligent. They already are powerful and intelligent, and on their own merit, thanks.

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"Gracious Professionalism" once again another overused phrase that has lost all meaning.


In fairness, you were the first to mention it. If and how it is overused, if at all, is another discussion entirely.

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Yes, debate is fun. however, i have a life. i don't have time to look for meaningless facts while i wait on somebody to respond to a forum argument.


And similarly, I am not one to allow misinformation and incorrect facts, researched or otherwise, to stand unchallenged in a public forum. I hope that, given the extensive resources and links I have provided, I haven't wasted too of your time with these meaningless facts.

Again, I'll reiterate - feel free to share your opinions with us here on the ChiefDelphi forums, but please understand that for such a community to work efficiently and to affect real, positive change, it requires that we each take responsibility for our actions. In that vein, I don't believe that one should post anything, lest they be ready and willing to be taken to task, and asked to defend their claim. If you're not willing to spend the time necessary to make an intelligent criticism of what I've written, please don't reply; or, better yet, don't post in the first place.

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now i will attempt to end this (again) in the immortal words of my mother. "he started it and you end it. be the bigger person" i did and i am.
In my mind, this is nothing but a clever attempt at passive-aggressive behavior, as it stresses, somehow, that I'm at fault, or otherwise unfairly asking for your defense of what I perceive to be an untenable argument.

The choice to reply always lies with you, just as it does with me. I won't say anything more, for fear of going, "way beyond intelligent discussion."
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