FRC 2012: Team Update #2

[bdbayes]

The team update #2 is now available in the FIRST team updates section. Team Update #2

[Chris is me]

It appears to be down. Phooey.

[bdbayes]

It appears to be working on my screen.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

It appears to be down. Phooey.

I just got in.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by bdbayes

The team update #2 is now available in the FIRST team updates section. Team Update #2

The FP-9012 motor has been added to [R48]

[GaryVoshol]

So are we going to have a continuous update document? This shows updates from both #1 and #2, doesn't it?

And does anyone else miss the rational that the GDC used to provide for the changes?

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

So are we going to have a continuous update document? This shows updates from both #1 and #2, doesn't it?

Definitely not a fan of that... If I print this, it's a total waste of paper to reprint old info every week. It's like printing every verse of the 12 days of Christmas 1 verse at a time!

Is there any way to just print a section of what I see on the screen?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Is there any way to just print a section of what I see on the screen?

Yes.

Do a "Print Preview" to find what range of pages to print, and then print just those pages.

In Firefox:

File|PrintPreview

File|Print, then select pages then print

[PAR_WIG1350]

[G26]Strategies aimed at the destruction or inhibition of Robots, via attachment, damage, tipping or entanglement of Robots are not in the spirit of the FRC and are not allowed.

Interesting, they appear to be saying no (traditional) defense at all.

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350

Interesting, they appear to be saying no (traditional) defense at all.

Does that just mean no tipping, or no pushing, showing, getting in the way, etc?

[apalrd]

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350

Interesting, they appear to be saying no (traditional) defense at all.

No.

They're saying you can't attach, damage, entangle, or tip the robot, even if you weren't intending on destroying them.

Robot on robot defense, if all contact is within the bumper zone, is fully legal still (provided the defensive robot is not more than 60" tall, and all other related rules such as the offensive robot being in safe zones are followed)

[Ether]

[G26]Strategies aimed at the destruction or inhibition of Robots, via attachment, damage, tipping or entanglement of Robots are not in the spirit of the FRC and are not allowed.

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350

Interesting, they appear to be saying no (traditional) defense at all.

attachment is not traditional defense.

damage is not traditional defense.

tipping is not traditional defense.

entanglement? depends on which definition of "entangle" was intended.

[PAR_WIG1350]

Originally Posted by Ether

attachment is not traditional defense.

damage is not traditional defense.

tipping is not traditional defense.

entanglement? depends on which definition of "entangle" was intended.

The way I read it, which, after reading this again (4th time's the charm), seems to be different from what was intended, was that any type of "inhibition" was illegal. But I would have to agree, they meant inhibition by the listed actions, thus, only old school (2003? back) defense is prohibited by this update.

[Grim Tuesday]

No radical changes; If they're not making them now, I doubt they'll make them until Week 1.

[mdiradoorian]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

No radical changes; If they're not making them now, I doubt they'll make them until Week 1.

I am not expecting any until maybe after week 1 or 2.