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Motors not working with jaguars

The motors wont run when they are connected to a jaguar, any ideas as to what the problem is. The light on the jaguar is blinking.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

There is no PWM cable connected to the jaguar.

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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

Hey. First off i would check the control system diagrams on the frc KOP websites. The big thing i see wrong with it is the lack of a PWM cable that goes into the digital side car. (see control system wiring pdf)

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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

The other thing that i would recomend checking is that your motors are geared right and working
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

We connected the PMW cables but it did not worked. The motors work fine, they work when we connect them to a power source. Can someone post a link to the diagram.

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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

But did you execute code to tell the Jaguar what power to turn the motor? And where did you connect the PWM cable to? It should be connected to one of the PWM channels of the digital sidecar.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

Not only do you need a pwm cable from the jaguar to the digital sidecar, but the digital sidecar must be connected to the crio and the crio, digital sidecar AND the jaguar must be connected to the power distribution board to receive power.

Edit: Also, check your crimping, the red motor lead seems to be crimped incorrectly, there should be no metal from the wire visible. Also, you should be able to hold the connector in one hand and the wire in the other and tug it without the connector falling off.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

Ok, here is the power connection diagram.
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...olenoid%29.pdf

And here is the signal connection diagram.
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...28PWM%29. pdf

Although the line that connects the PWM channel 1 of the digital sidecar to the Jaguar is technically incorrect. It doesn't go into the RJ-11 connector. It should go to the 3-pin header labeled PWM on the Jaguar.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

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Ok, here is the power connection diagram.
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...olenoid%29.pdf

And here is the signal connection diagram.
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...28PWM%29. pdf

Although the line that connects the PWM channel 1 of the digital sidecar to the Jaguar is technically incorrect. It doesn't go into the RJ-11 connector. It should go to the 3-pin header labeled PWM on the Jaguar.
We did this, we put the left motor to PWM 1 and the right motor PWM 2 but still nothing is working. Could it have to do with the cRIO
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

To get the motors working correctly as i understand, not only do you need to hook it up the the jaguar and correctly configure all other hardware, but you also need the code which can be found under Support-->Example programs[Labview] There is 2 main motor configs, tank drive and arcade drive. I believe that arcade drive is default for robot name if you start a new crio project. The scematics for setting up the hardware[Electrical] can be found here
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=elect...00JnvBw&zoom=1
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

The document entitled "Getting Started with your 2012 Control System" located here goes step by step on configuring your Control System.

I assume you are somewhere on page 25 but you should go through this document and verify every step has been performed. Also, while you can use one of the Example Projects (on the Labview Splash Screen click Support and then click "Find FRC Examples" the Default Project has code in it already to control a simple drive-train, to help new teams get started. Which this document references.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

Problem has been fixed. We forgot to put the jumper on the Analog breakout. Everything else was connected properly.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

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Problem has been fixed. We forgot to put the jumper on the Analog breakout. Everything else was connected properly.
Erm, that problem would have no effect on Jaguar communication barring some ridiculous short through the breakout. The jumper allows you to see your battery readout accurately, not regulate speed controller signals.
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Problem has been fixed. We forgot to put the jumper on the Analog breakout. Everything else was connected properly.
Analog breakout? That has nothing to do with the jaguars. If you are talking about the servo jumpers on the DSC, than there is still something wrong, you shouldn't need those. The only possible thing I can think of that would make this solution make sense would be the new CRIO image disabling all outputs when it can't read battery voltage.
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Re: Motors not working with jaguars

The crimp coming from the cim to the jag seems to be coming out via your picture
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