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Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

What is the difference?

My team is using a short shooter that can shoot 25 feet and hit the same spot + or - 4 inches. All I see this year is tall shooters.

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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

What about mid?
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

The reasoning behind tall shooters is that the ball is already starting at a higher altitude, so it can go further with less power.


With that being said, we have a mid level shooter.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

One reason why our team chose to go with a tall shooter was because we were afraid that teams would try to block our shots. If our shooter is at almost the maximum height limit though, we don't ever have to worry about that since robots trying to block our shots can't be higher than 60". That being said, making a taller shooter adds more weight. A pick and choose thing.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

If you shoot at too much of an angle, lets go to the extreme and say 89 degrees. itll take "forever" to get there, and the shot is very unlikely to get there depending on the conditions of the building you are shooting in.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

What's considered a tall shooter? Our shooter is somewhere around 45-50 inches, im not really sure which side to vote on........
IMO, ~45-50 in. is optimal.

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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We designed a tall shooter to hopefully prevent our camera from being blocked. No matter what the the angle of your shooter is, if your camera is low enough to be blocked it's going to be very hard to get an accurate shot. We did try to keep as much of our weight as low as possible.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

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We designed a tall shooter to hopefully prevent our camera from being blocked. No matter what the the angle of your shooter is, if your camera is low enough to be blocked it's going to be very hard to get an accurate shot. We did try to keep as much of our weight as low as possible.
This is why we designed a tall shooter too; we didn't want our camera to be blocked.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

What about a short shooter with an elevated camera?
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

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What about a short shooter with an elevated camera?

This would work too. I guess it just depends on the team and what their design calls for. Our kids decide they like the tall shooter the best.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We have a short shooter (24" at the very top, yeah we have a small robot), and our rationale was:
  • Less weight-you don't need to build a huge superstructre on the shooter
  • Lower Center of Gravity-you can cross the barrier and the bridge without tipping over.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Another short shooter here. Our robot is under 3 feet to make sure we won't flip in the event of a bridge mishap. It made mounting electronics interesting but also cut out a good chunk of aluminum weight. We're at 119 still so we definitely took advantage of it.

Unless you're shooting at a low angle I don't see having a short shooter being a huge factor in competition. Those shooting from the key will ensure anyone close enough to block them takes penalties and those shooting from the fender will need to have no one in front of them to score anyway.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

Short shooters have a lower CoG and are easier to balance on the bridge. We have a short shooter, and our decision had nothing to do with being blocked or being tipped.

In fact, if we are shooting from the key, we figure no team will be silly enough to get close to block our shots without us drawing the foul. Also, if you shoot from the back of the robot, the shot can pretty much clear a 5 foot obstruction unless the shooter is on the ground floor of your robot.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

We built a tall shooter. In our week 0 our autonomous shot over the top of a short shooter, who then shot after us. It worked out quite well, there is definitely a place for both in the game.
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Re: Tall Shooters vs Small Shooters

easier to block the short guy . why do you think you dont see any...... shorter ethnicities playing basketball
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