Joysticks.....Again. check it out, Joe.

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Posted by S. Krussell.

Coach on team #349, Robahamas, from International Academy and Ford Motor Co..

Posted on 2/29/2000 3:52 PM MST



Hi People,

We called Eric Rasmussen, the tech person at FIRST today. He told us that we cannot use any joysticks except the type provided in the kit, the 'Flight Sticks'. Since the conversation indicated otherwise last week, i thought that you all should know,so as not to have a problem at competition. So, to repeat, we cannot change the type of joystick. It's too bad, because we're not too happy with these.

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Posted by Joe Johnson.   [PICTURE: SAME | NEW | HELP]


Engineer on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central High School and Delphi Automotive Systems.

Posted on 2/29/2000 6:04 PM MST


In Reply to: Joysticks.....Again. check it out, Joe. posted by S. Krussell on 2/29/2000 3:52 PM MST:



This is a very interesting response from FIRST.

How then are we to determine what is an unlimited 'material' and what is forbidden?

100Kohm pots are allowed as long as they are linear taper and wired as indicated.

Switches of any kind are allowed as long as they are wired as indicated.

Wire: it too is allowed.

Plastic: Allowed

Put them all together: Not allowed

What if a team used a joystick only for its switches?

Let's say that FIRST says, No, this is not allowed. Then what about a larger industrial palm switch from McMaster say? Is this allowed as a switch or disallowed as a joystick?

How are we to decide where a legal linear tape pot or a standard switch in an unlimited material ends and an illegal component begins?

How is this going to be determined?

Joe J.

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Posted by Nate Smith.

Other on team #66, GM Powertrain/Willow Run HS, from Eastern Michigan University and GM Powertrain.

Posted on 2/29/2000 7:01 PM MST


In Reply to: Interesting response... posted by Joe Johnson on 2/29/2000 6:04 PM MST:



: This is a very interesting response from FIRST.

: How then are we to determine what is an unlimited 'material' and what is forbidden?

: 100Kohm pots are allowed as long as they are linear taper and wired as indicated.

: Switches of any kind are allowed as long as they are wired as indicated.

: Wire: it too is allowed.

: Plastic: Allowed

: Put them all together: Not allowed

: What if a team used a joystick only for its switches?

: Let's say that FIRST says, No, this is not allowed. Then what about a larger industrial palm switch from McMaster say? Is this allowed as a switch or disallowed as a joystick?

: How are we to decide where a legal linear tape pot or a standard switch in an unlimited material ends and an illegal component begins?

: How is this going to be determined?

: Joe J.


Here's how i'd interpret this...
homemade = ok
off-the-shelf(due to possible incompatibilites) = not ok

Nate

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Posted by Justin Stiltner.

Student on team #388, Epsilon, from Grundy High School and NASA, American Electric Power, Town of Grundy.

Posted on 2/29/2000 7:06 PM MST


In Reply to: Joysticks.....Again. check it out, Joe. posted by S. Krussell on 2/29/2000 3:52 PM MST:



I know what you mean Joe I wish I could use a joystick from a R/c airplane radio I like it better because it is shorter and more suted to our robots handeling
I always end up holding the joy stick with my thumb and index finger below the grip ( force of habbit)

Justin Stiltner