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Best moments of Rebound Rumble

Now that IRI has ended, I was thinking about some of the best matches, alliances, surprises, and more that have happened throughout this season. I though I should share my thoughts here. I guess I'll make this kind of like an award show, saying what I think was the best moment, match, etc. and anyone else who wants to can share their opinion

Best Match: Archimedes F-3, this match decided the Archimedes representitive and was extremely fun to watch, by the time it got to the bridges it was anyones game. The Eh team doubled and the 2826, 67, 4143 team failed on a great triple attempt. Other notables: Newton S-1(or maybe 2) where both alliances tripled and the final score was 121-97 I believe(correct me on that), and Boston F-2 an extremely close match decided by a single basket.

Best alliance(qualification or elimination): The now famous IRI alliance of 624, 118, and 16, who scored 136 points, three of which from a shot on the bridge. Other notables: the Eh-team (1114, 2056, 4334) and Boston regional winners (341, 233, 246)

Best moment for my own team: winning the RCA at GSR, our first of hopefully many more. Other notable: making it to the finals as an 11 seed during battlecry@WPI (thanks 175 and 716!)

Best robots: Just to list some notables, 67, 341, 2056, 2826, 1114, 233, 1717, and many many more.

Best rookie team: 4334 ATA the best feeder in the game this year

Best play: 118 scoring from the bridge at IRI.

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Best rookie team: 4334 ATA the best feeder in the game this year
Although I agree that they were the best rookie team this year, I think that 16 had a better feeder bot. In my opinion, 16 was almost a necessity. I was very surprised that they made it so deep into the draft at champs, and ended up being the 8th alliance captain at IRI. I think that 1114 and 2826 could have won IRI without 4334 (Not trying downplay 4334's contributions to the their IRI alliance, just my opinion).
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Although I agree that they were the best rookie team this year, I think that 16 had a better feeder bot. In my opinion, 16 was almost a necessity. I was very surprised that they made it so deep into the draft at champs, and ended up being the 8th alliance captain at IRI. I think that 1114 and 2826 could have won IRI without 4334 (Not trying downplay 4334's contributions to the their IRI alliance, just my opinion).
This alliance needed 4334 in order to make a triple balance possible. One of the things that makes 4334's robot this year so great is the fact that it isn't a full sized robot.
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This alliance needed 4334 in order to make a triple balance possible. One of the things that makes 4334's robot this year so great is the fact that it isn't a full sized robot.
Okay, I'll give you that. A triple would have been much more difficult without a short bot (how short were they?). However, at an event like IRI, I think that they could have been just as successful by having a shooter in those last 30 seconds. There were still quite a few good shooters left. At that point in the match, there is a wide open field, making ball collection and shooting much easier. Although these are the best robots in the world, there is too much risk involved in the triple. I saw way too many teams get eliminated because they failed to triple balance.

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Comparing 16 to 4334 is hard to do considering 16 was a completely different robot from top to bottom. You can't compare 4334's 4wd to a swerve drive that has been years in the making by a veteran team like 16.
Hypothetically, if both were left in the draft at that point, which would you think is the better pick for 2826 and 1114?

My favorite match was the battle of the human players at IRI. It was incredibly exciting to watch.
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Hypothetically, if both were left in the draft at that point, which would you think is the better pick for 2826 and 1114?
Hard to say. You can never know who 1114 is going to pick because they examine every aspect of performance to make a powerful alliance.

My guess would be 4334 because they make tripling much easier than 16 especially since there were 2 long bots already on the alliance. Plus 4334 had already been feeding 1114 in hybrid throughout Archimedes and on Einstein a few months before.

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Re: Best moments of Rebound Rumble

The moments that really stand out in my mind as the best in Rebound Rumble:

GTR west Finals match 1
Lone Star Semis 1 match 2 (AKA 2415 scoring 67 points by themselves including a 6 ball auton)
IRI Quals Match with 624, 118, and 16.
Watching 16 wreck havoc in the Galileo Eliminations
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Curie QF 4 1-3, 1986 1678 85 vs. 3528 1741 1477. The largest point difference in these 3 matches was 2.

I am also quite a big fan of 1986 and 1477. Kind of wish 1477 and 624 hadn't been "stranded" in the Curie seeding, they could have done great things if they had teamed up for a third time. Lots of good things coming out of Texas lately.
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1114's Chairman's video
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I'd have to extend that to 'stands out in my mind' for all of FIRST history, ever.
That video is fantastic, and the team truly deserves their place in the Hall of Fame.
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Definitely a fun topic. But just putting it out there, that there is still a ton of Rebound Rumble yet to play. We are having 4 events, just in the MAR District this Fall. Who knows what else will happen!
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Best Match Archimedes F1-3. Enough has been said on that, but it was just incredible. Our team was watching the webcast and were on our feet cheering the entire match, were heartbroken when we saw 1114 dead on the field, and then when crazy 2826's alliance failed the triple balance, putting the 'Eh' team through to Einstein. In fact, the other two finals matches were also astounding. GTR West F1-1 definitely comes in at a close second though.

Best Alliance In my opinion, any alliance that didn't incude team 16 can't be considered the best alliance. Watching them in person for the first time at IRI left me awestruck. Their speed combined with their superb manoeuvrability and their drivers that know how to push their robot the to limits made a formidable opponent. 118 was hitting up a storm all season, and 624 had an amazing turnout at IRI. Add them together and what do you get? The best alliance of this year, which I would maintain even if they hadn't surpassed the world record.

Best Moment for my own Team GTR East SF1-1. Not only was it our highest scoring match of that regional, our first semi-final win ever (and my first FRC regional ever), it was the first time since 2009 that 1114 and 2056 lost together during an elimination match. These two teams have been dominating the Canadian regionals together since 2056's inception, and winning against them was truly an awe-inspiring moment. To be able to repeat against 2056 twice at GTR West was an added bonus.

Best Moment Personally Competing with Wildstang was one of my personal favourite moments of the season. They were my favourite team to work with, even if it was just for one qualification match. I didn't enjoy them because of their tie-dye shirts, their superiority on the field, or their legacy, but for their upmost respect for whomever they encounter (read: me). When their drive team approached us prior to our qualification match at IRI together, they were nothing but courteous. They had a match strategy before approaching us, but were willing to listen to our's as well. From my limited person exposure to them and the many stories I've heard about them, they are the epitome of Gracious Professionalism.

Best Robots I'm going to stay away from this, because it wouldn't matter how many I list, I'd be sure to miss some.

Best Rookie Team 4334. RAS, Division winners, and an IRI win. Enough said, or shall I go on? Hit up a storm at championships as part of the 'Eh' team, the only rookie on Einstein, and they are starting a regional in an area with only 2 FRC teams. In regards to FIRST, clearly they "get it."

Best Play First triple balance at the Alamo regional. I was watching it over the stream, and it was simply astounding. You can even see the referee screaming and cheering as it transpired.
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Hypothetically, if both were left in the draft at that point, which would you think is the better pick for 2826 and 1114?
Long before alliance picking and we already decided 1114 was our #1 pick (provided they were still around by then), Karthik and I made an instantaneously simultaneous decision that 4334 had to be on our alliance (provided they were still around too)

I would have loved to have played with 16, they are definitely one of my 2012 favorites, but 4334 couldn't have been substituted.
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Although I agree that they were the best rookie team this year, I think that 16 had a better feeder bot. In my opinion, 16 was almost a necessity. I was very surprised that they made it so deep into the draft at champs, and ended up being the 8th alliance captain at IRI. I think that 1114 and 2826 could have won IRI without 4334 (Not trying downplay 4334's contributions to the their IRI alliance, just my opinion).
Comparing 16 to 4334 is hard to do considering 16 was a completely different robot from top to bottom. You can't compare 4334's 4wd to a swerve drive that has been years in the making by a veteran team like 16. 4334 was a much smaller robot making them a much better tripling robot.

I doubt 2826 and 1114 would have won IRI without 4334. Because without 4334 they probably wouldn't have been able to triple and 4334 played some extremely tough defense against opposing robots like 148.

Back to the topic.

Cool moments of 2012 include the beautiful hybrid by 1519, 1983, and 181 in quarterfinal 2-1 on the Newton field. 5 balls scored in 3 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLo15...feature=relmfu

4334 pushing 148 back over the bridge at IRI.

118 and 1717 going head to head in Newton qual. 129 and tying 71 to 71!
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Although I agree that they were the best rookie team this year, I think that 16 had a better feeder bot. In my opinion, 16 was almost a necessity. I was very surprised that they made it so deep into the draft at champs, and ended up being the 8th alliance captain at IRI. I think that 1114 and 2826 could have won IRI without 4334 (Not trying downplay 4334's contributions to the their IRI alliance, just my opinion).
I have no problems with 16, in my mind they were a top team this year, and they have a world championship to for it. Now without talking about balancing, I still say 4334 is just a tad bit better of a feeder simple because of their speed and maneuverability, however 16 is definitely a tad bit better at not getting penalties (I've seen them get multiple penalties as opposed to not seeing 16 get any) Nonetheless, both are absolutely fantastic robots, and deserve to be recognized as such.
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...I still say 4334 is just a tad bit better of a feeder simple because of their speed and maneuverability...
No offense, but did you just say that someone has better speed and maneuverability than 16?

That caught me off guard.
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No offense, but did you just say that someone has better speed and maneuverability than 16?

That caught me off guard.
Ok so they're both fast
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