Question about the rules for Ultimate Ascent

[DrakusDarkus]

I have read all the rules and I have a question that hopefully someone here can clarify...

Is it legal to pick up your opponent's colored disc and score it in your own goal (non-pyramid)?
(It doesn't say you can't do that)

and could this possibly be a good strategy for defending bots?

Originally Posted by DrakusDarkus

I have read all the rules and I have a question that hopefully someone here can clarify...

Is it legal to pick up your opponent's colored disc and score it in your own goal?
(It doesn't say you can't do that)

and could this possibly be a good strategy for defending bots?

There's nothing against it.

Is it a decent strategy? Maybe.

[DrakusDarkus]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

There's nothing against it.

Is it a decent strategy? Maybe.

Thanks that helped

[CalTran]

Score them in your own goal all you want, but they're not worth jack.

3.2.4.1 DISC Points
... Additionally, for a DISC to be considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE"S PYRAMID GOAL, it must correspond to the PYRAMID color.

If you score a RED DISC in a BLUE PYRAMID, it's not worth anything (Though you could argue it's worth 5pts that you denied.)

[Twest3259]

they'd still count in the one two and three point goals, so essentially you're scoring up to eight points per disc. Because if you made it in the three, and denied them five points.

[DrakusDarkus]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Score them in your own goal all you want, but they're not worth jack.

If you score a RED DISC in a BLUE PYRAMID, it's not worth anything (Though you could argue it's worth 5pts that you denied.)

What I meant was take an opposing team's colored disc and score it in your high, low, or middle goal... I think that makes the colored disc count as a white disc that anyone can use unless I interpreted the rules wrong :/

[bargy101]

At the end of the game when the human players can start throwing the discs into the field, do they have to throw over the wall? Or can they throw around the wall?

[DrakusDarkus]

Originally Posted by bargy101

At the end of the game when the human players can start throwing the discs into the field, do they have to throw over the wall? Or can they throw around the wall?

It doesn't specify whether or not you can throw around the wall BUT if it isn't specified in the rules that means that you are able to do that.

Also stay tuned to http://www.usfirst.org/ in case FIRST updates the rules because they might clarify that pretty soon

[slijin]

Originally Posted by bargy101

At the end of the game when the human players can start throwing the discs into the field, do they have to throw over the wall? Or can they throw around the wall?

Something to ask the GDC later, but remember that the netting, which is "made up of three panels that are 10 ft. tall and 14 ft. long", will be there to block throws around the side.

[savage]

G17 From looking at the field layout there is no disc return during game play, so I see where you guys are going with this. But per Cal trans Question you are violating G17 and this is a foul.

[cosmicexplorer]

Ok, but this isn't asking about putting discs in the opponent's pyramid goal. The question is if the opponent tried to put discs in their pyramid goal and missed so the frisbees are on the floor, could you pick those frisbees up and toss them in your own high/mid/low goals for points?

[GaryVoshol]

There's nothing in the rules to limit what you do with your opponent's color of discs. They won't count in your pyramid goal, but they should count in one of your other goals - barring a different interpretation from Q&A.

Regarding throwing in the discs, look at the rule again:

Originally Posted by G35

DISCS may be fed onto the FIELD only under the following circumstances:
A. during TELEOP through the FEEDER SLOTS and
B. during the last thirty (30) seconds of TELEOP over the FEEDER STATIONS.

See that word "only" there? Round the wall is not over the wall, so it would not be permitted.

[Chimera0x694]

Originally Posted by bargy101
At the end of the game when the human players can start throwing the discs into the field, do they have to throw over the wall? Or can they throw around the wall?

You MUST throw OVER the wall. We had one of the Michigan FRC advisers elaborate. You are not allowed to throw discs to the side of the walls.
Hope this helped!

[slijin]

Originally Posted by Chimera0x694

You MUST throw OVER the wall. We had one of the Michigan FRC advisers elaborate. You are not allowed to throw discs to the side of the walls.
Hope this helped!

Yes, indeed; thank you.

Out of curiosity, do you remember who this person was?

[iPenguin]

If you wanted to throw around the wall, you may be in violation of these 2.

G36

During the MATCH, TEAMS must be within their ALLIANCE STATION. Exceptions will be granted for inadvertent or inconsequential infractions and in cases concerning safety.

G37

TEAMS may not extend any body part into the FIELD or contact any ROBOT at any time during the MATCH.