Car Nack Predicts 13-3

[Car Nack]

Car Nack predicts 13-3

Surprisingly there will be a least one match where all three robots on an alliance will score 30 climbing points.

Car Nack has spoken.

[mjustice66]

Wow that is a bold prediction, but if it was going to happen I think you could only see it at MSC or IRI.

Originally Posted by mjustice66

Wow that is a bold prediction, but if it was going to happen I think you could only see it at MSC or IRI.

Or SVR...

[ehfeinberg]

I think Car Nack made his first prediction without realizing how many teams were going to attempt the 30 point climb. Now after seeing how many teams are going after it, there probably will be at least 1 match with 3 30 point climbs

[Jeffy]

I think this prediction is made even more viable based on the number of teams who are choosing to only climb. For the most part, these are teams with lower resources and often not very competitive bots.
But this year:
If half of the not usually competitive teams complete the challenge to climb for 30, then you may end up seeing regionals with 20+ 30 point climbers.

Another reason this game might be the best^.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

I think this prediction is made even more viable based on the number of teams who are choosing to only climb. For the most part, these are teams with lower resources and often not very competitive bots.
But this year:
If half of the not usually competitive teams complete the challenge to climb for 30, then you may end up seeing regionals with 20+ 30 point climbers.

Another reason this game might be the best^.

I don't think so. A team who normally makes a not very competitive bot is very likely to fail if they are trying to 30 point climb.

[xSAWxBLADEx]

Originally Posted by Cory

I don't think so. A team who normally makes a not very competitive bot is very likely to fail if they are trying to 30 point climb.

I agree. A lot of people are underestimating how easy it is to pick up from the HP, shoot, and 10 point hang.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Jeffy

I think this prediction is made even more viable based on the number of teams who are choosing to only climb. For the most part, these are teams with lower resources and often not very competitive bots.
But this year:
If half of the not usually competitive teams complete the challenge to climb for 30, then you may end up seeing regionals with 20+ 30 point climbers.

Another reason this game might be the best^.

This assumption is counter intuitive.

Climbing for 30 points is the most difficult task of all my years in FIRST. Many low resource teams might try but the vast majority will fail. My advise to low resource teams is make a human loaded shooter. This is a brazillion times easier to do than climb for 30.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by IndySam

This assumption is counter intuitive.

Climbing for 30 points is the most difficult task of all my years in FIRST. Many low resource teams might try but the vast majority will fail. My advise to low resource teams is make a human loaded shooter. This is a brazillion times easier to do than climb for 30.

Alot of low performers would rather fail spectacularly than go for the low hanging fruit. For some reason they see inspiration in this.

[Kusha]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Alot of low performers would rather fail spectacularly than go for the low hanging fruit. For some reason they see inspiration in this.

As a "low performer" (Don't worry we're only hanging on the 10). We often over estimate our capabilities, ex looking on chiefdelphi and going "Oh we can do that" and spending 4 weeks and never figuring out how to do x thing. This year we've done as much as our team is able to do, and so far so good, we have a working shooter and working robot on week 3, which is unheard of.

And low performer is quite hurtful, we prefer overly optimistic. Calling our team low performing is not that motivating.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Kusha

As a "low performer" (Don't worry we're only hanging on the 10). We often over estimate our capabilities, ex looking on chiefdelphi and going "Oh we can do that" and spending 4 weeks and never figuring out how to do x thing. This year we've done as much as our team is able to do, and so far so good, we have a working shooter and working robot on week 3, which is unheard of.

And low performer is quite hurtful, we prefer overly optimistic. Calling our team low performing is not that motivating.

Well FIRST is filled with many overly optimistic teams that could do themselves (and their partners) a favor and take a step back and build robots that will actually perform. They may actually find themselves working on Saturday afternoon because of it.

[dellagd]

Is "Car Nack Predicts" A tradition on chief delphi? Does anyone know the story behind it?

[CalTran]

This is what the great Car Nack is. Can't help you on who he is though. I'm Looking Forward to finding out who he is, eventually. Perhaps once I ascend the ultimate echelons of FIRST.

[Walter Deitzler]

Originally Posted by CalTran

This is what the great Car Nack is. Can't help you on who he is though. I'm Looking Forward to finding out who he is, eventually. Perhaps once I ascend the ultimate echelons of FIRST.

Even I have not ascended the ultimate echelon of FIRST, after being on CD for WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY too long (too many hours spent, I have only actually been looking at CD since 2011) , I have a good notion of who Car Nack is. (Reading the spotlighted posts is a great way to delve deep into CD history).

On another note, I could totally see a late divisional qualification or an Einstein, and definitely an IRI match, where this happens. MSC and MAR Championships are other great places where we can expect to see this. I do not doubt that there will be a 6 bot climb, but the question is, how late in the season will this be?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by dellagd

Is "Car Nack Predicts" A tradition on chief delphi? Does anyone know the story behind it?

Yes it is. I can't say I know the story, though. Son of Car Nack might know. (Or you could ask Car Nack himself--I'd look for him at Midwest.)

Leeland, Car Nack has been known to play games with wording before. Every word is deliberately chosen. I believe one of the predictions from last year had a very similar wording, regarding 6 robots on a bridge (not specifying whether all 6 were on one bridge, 3 were on 2, or 2-2-2--one of the three could not happen, while the other two happened quite frequently.)

As such, Car Nack can be shown correct, even if only one robot makes a climb to the top. All three robots on an alliance scored 30 climb points, even though only one robot scored them. If all three robots each score 30... well, that's a lot harder to do, and I suspect there might be one. Either way, Car Nack gets this one right, pending further clarification from the camel herder of the Endless Sands.