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top ten best teams in FIRST

I'm pretty new to FIRST and i was wondering what teams should be included in a list of the top ten best teams in FIRST for all time.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

It's a few more than 10... But check out the FRC Hall of Fame
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I'm pretty new to FIRST and i was wondering what teams should be included in a list of the top ten best teams in FIRST for all time.
Hmmm that's a tough one. 1114 is definitely 1st or close to it. 254 is good. 111, 2056, 233 are good. You could throw in 25, 180, and 16 (being world champions and all). Teams beyond that I'm not sure. I know a lot of good teams, but I don't know if they're in the top 10 or not. I guess it would depend on what makes a team "good"/"best".

EDIT: How could I forget 341?
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Hmmm that's a tough one. 1114 is definitely 1st or close to it. 254 is good. 111, 2056, 233 are good. You could throw in 25, 180, and 16 (being world champions and all). Teams beyond that I'm not sure. I know a lot of good teams, but I don't know if they're in the top 10 or not. I guess it would depend on what makes a team "good"/"best".

How on earth did you manage to miss 67? 1717? 469? 217? Point is, there is really not a specific list of "top teams in FIRST". It varies year to year, and there's much too many to list. Go look up FRC Top 25 or search through the forums for Top Teams by Decade or by number block. Can't remember which.
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How on earth did you manage to miss 67? 1717? 469? 217? Point is, there is really not a specific list of "top teams in FIRST". It varies year to year, and there's much too many to list. Go look up FRC Top 25 or search through the forums for Top Teams by Decade or by number block. Can't remember which.
Yeah. It's really hard to narrow it down to only 10.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

Looking at robot histories, the only "locks" for such a list would be 71 and 67, who have won more Championships than anyone else. After that, there's a large number of teams in the mix, including 1114, 254, 16, 469, 233, 47/51, 111, 217, and many others.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2383

I think this is what you're looking for.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

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Looking at robot histories, the only "locks" for such a list would be 71 and 67, who have won more Championships than anyone else. After that, there's a large number of teams in the mix, including 1114, 254, 16, 469, 233, 47/51, 111, 217, and many others.
I think this just highlights the problem with trying to create such a list. Several of the lists on this page manage to ignore 2056, who have won 14 consecutive regionals, beginning with their double regional winning debut in 2007, right up to their double membership in the triple regional club in 2011 and 2012. Not to mention 2 trips to Einstein, among other achievements.

There is a great deal of consensus though, that there exists a group of teams who are perennial powerhouses. 16, 25, 47/51/65, 67, 71, 111, 118, 148, 188, 217, 233, 254, 341, 469, 610, 1114, 1625, 1717, 2056, 2337, and more frequently end up on such lists.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

I'd argue that the very best teams at the moment are: 67, 111 & 1114.
Followed by: 2056, 1717 and 341.
Oh and one team that doesn't often make these lists, but should: 2826, wave robotic. In 2012 they were division finalisits, IRI winners, and had one of the best shooters in the world.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

Too many ties to pick a top ten. 1717 is my favorite.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

I recall a thread of this sort in the past, and it did not end up well. I have no problem recognizing great teams, but let's use caution here folks with where we take this.
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Re: top ten best teams in FIRST

All Time? From the standpoint of most dominating robots... Here's the top 6 that come to mind.

71 - 2002
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All Time? From the standpoint of most dominating robots... Here's the top 6 that come to mind.

71 - 2002
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I would include 1114 - 2008.
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I would include 1114 - 2008.
I debated that and for some reason they don't stand out in my mind as "dominant" in the same sense the other teams do so I left them off.

I do point to them as probably the most elegant robot of all time though.
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I debated that and for some reason they don't stand out in my mind as "dominant" in the same sense the other teams do so I left them off.

I do point to them as probably the most elegant robot of all time though.
They were more dominant in 2008 than 2010 and you left off the only dominant robot of 2010.
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