Go to Post Just because something has never been done, doesn't mean it's impossible. See: everything ever. - Taylor [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > Robot Showcase
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:35
sircedric4's Avatar
sircedric4 sircedric4 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Darren
no team (The SS Prometheus)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Lousiana
Posts: 245
sircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond repute
Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

We have completed enough of our robot to finally showcase how we are gonna climb to 30 pts and dump frisbees on the top for 20 pts.

This week we will be finishing the wiring and plumbing and doing the final Cg adjustments to make it work.

To begin, this link takes you to a simulation we performed on the CAD robot to show everyone how we expect it to climb.

http://youtu.be/l7z5QPjqEAk

Our other video shows us doing the first 2 levels to make sure that the robot, as built, performed as required. You will notice weight cupcakes zip tied all over the robot to make sure our robot is at the proper weight and Cg.

http://youtu.be/CbTblcCOoS4

We plan to have the robot climbing under its own brains this weekend and when we get video of that, I will post it to this topic.

Enjoy! We look forward to your comments and questions.
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:38
dodar's Avatar
dodar dodar is online now
Registered User
FRC #1592 (Bionic Tigers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 2,923
dodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

...wow....speechless. If you can get that to do it fully on its own it will be beautiful to see. How far are you guys along on the dumper part and does it stay legal?
__________________
1592(Student and Mentor) 2007-2012

Blue Banners: 2008 Colorado, 2012 Orlando, 2012 South Florida, 2014 Orlando, 2015 Buckeye

Mechanical Engineering - University of Central Florida(Class of 2016)
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:43
sircedric4's Avatar
sircedric4 sircedric4 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Darren
no team (The SS Prometheus)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Lousiana
Posts: 245
sircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar View Post
...wow....speechless. If you can get that to do it fully on its own it will be beautiful to see. How far are you guys along on the dumper part and does it stay legal?
The dumper is done and just needs plumbing. This weekend will include a test of how it performs. This weekend is gonna be our full up system test if we can keep from running into show stoppers.

It easily meets the geometry and weight rules and stays within the 54" cylinder. All our valves, tanks, pistons and such are rated 150 psi working. As far as we can see from reading the rules it should stay legal. :-)
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:45
dodar's Avatar
dodar dodar is online now
Registered User
FRC #1592 (Bionic Tigers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 2,923
dodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

So is this gonna be your team's thing? Climb to 30 and then dump 4 or will you be able to score other discs before climbing?
__________________
1592(Student and Mentor) 2007-2012

Blue Banners: 2008 Colorado, 2012 Orlando, 2012 South Florida, 2014 Orlando, 2015 Buckeye

Mechanical Engineering - University of Central Florida(Class of 2016)
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:51
sircedric4's Avatar
sircedric4 sircedric4 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Darren
no team (The SS Prometheus)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Lousiana
Posts: 245
sircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond reputesircedric4 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar View Post
So is this gonna be your team's thing? Climb to 30 and then dump 4 or will you be able to score other discs before climbing?
We had a strategy meeting at the beginning of our season and discussed the maximum points we could deliver given our limited resources. During that strategy meeting we figured a consistent 50 pt robot would be a good alliance teammate for nearly every game. The rest of the time we will be playing defense.

We have been focusing on reliability and robustness because the climb and dump is such an all or nothing approach.

This year has been very exciting for us. My fellow mentor and I personally like these years where it is extremely difficult to do it all and forces specialization.

For instance during Rack and Roll we concentrated on the ramps for our robot and were very happy with that consistent 60 pts.
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 14:23
Astrokid248's Avatar
Astrokid248 Astrokid248 is offline
The scariest person in FIRST
AKA: Aviana Knochel, a.k.a. WIG GIRL
FRC #0118 (The Robonauts)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 137
Astrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond reputeAstrokid248 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by sircedric4 View Post
We had a strategy meeting at the beginning of our season and discussed the maximum points we could deliver given our limited resources. During that strategy meeting we figured a consistent 50 pt robot would be a good alliance teammate for nearly every game. The rest of the time we will be playing defense.

We have been focusing on reliability and robustness because the climb and dump is such an all or nothing approach.

This year has been very exciting for us. My fellow mentor and I personally like these years where it is extremely difficult to do it all and forces specialization.

For instance during Rack and Roll we concentrated on the ramps for our robot and were very happy with that consistent 60 pts.
This is an excellent strategy. I wasn't understanding why you would go with such a complicated dumper until I read this, and now it seems brilliant. Can't wait to see all the systems in action together!
__________________
Conner: "You're short."
Me: "So what?"
Conner: "We're gonna put you inside the robot and let you kick everything."
Me: * facepalm *
-----------------
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 15:15
familyguyfreak's Avatar
familyguyfreak familyguyfreak is offline
Registered User
AKA: Xavier Eldridge
FRC #4209 (TigerBytes)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 88
familyguyfreak is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to familyguyfreak
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by sircedric4 View Post
We had a strategy meeting at the beginning of our season and discussed the maximum points we could deliver given our limited resources. During that strategy meeting we figured a consistent 50 pt robot would be a good alliance teammate for nearly every game. The rest of the time we will be playing defense.

We have been focusing on reliability and robustness because the climb and dump is such an all or nothing approach.

This year has been very exciting for us. My fellow mentor and I personally like these years where it is extremely difficult to do it all and forces specialization.

For instance during Rack and Roll we concentrated on the ramps for our robot and were very happy with that consistent 60 pts.
It's awesome to see that we aren't the only ones that decided to go with this idea. I love your design over ours though . I'm thinking if we get matched up at Bayou, it's going to be a race to see who can climb and score 50 the fastest!! Or better yet, we might complete one of the first double 30 pt climbs!!! Now I can't wait for Bayou to get here!! See you guys in a little over a month and we look forward to see the final design!!
__________________
DiscoBots:
2009: Member
2010-Present: Mentor

TigerBytes:
2012-Present: Mentor

  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 15:21
JB987 JB987 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Joe Barry
FRC #0987 (HIGH ROLLERS)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: May 2006
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: LAS VEGAS
Posts: 1,174
JB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond reputeJB987 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by familyguyfreak View Post
It's awesome to see that we aren't the only ones that decided to go with this idea. I love your design over ours though . I'm thinking if we get matched up at Bayou, it's going to be a race to see who can climb and score 50 the fastest!! Or better yet, we might complete one of the first double 30 pt climbs!!! Now I can't wait for Bayou to get here!! See you guys in a little over a month and we look forward to see the final design!!
Pretty sure it will be too crowded at the top for two inside climbers of the size represented in this thread...
__________________
"A genius is just a talented person who does his homework" T. Edison
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 15:28
familyguyfreak's Avatar
familyguyfreak familyguyfreak is offline
Registered User
AKA: Xavier Eldridge
FRC #4209 (TigerBytes)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 88
familyguyfreak is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to familyguyfreak
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB987 View Post
Pretty sure it will be too crowded at the top for two inside climbers of the size represented in this thread...
Sorry I didn't clarify. Our design is to climb from the outside and dump with an arm. We thought about going under and climbing from the inside but we couldn'd come up with a design to score the frisbees like 2992 has. A dumping arm was really simple for us to go with and it also allows us to score in the low goal as well if needed. We've got pictures of what we've come up with so far on our Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/TigerbytesRobotics
__________________
DiscoBots:
2009: Member
2010-Present: Mentor

TigerBytes:
2012-Present: Mentor

  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 15:30
JesseK's Avatar
JesseK JesseK is offline
Expert Flybot Crasher
FRC #1885 (ILITE)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 3,632
JesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

If air volume is an issue, scrap the 2" cylinder in lieu of a smaller bore. Make up for the loss of force via constant-force springs. It'll take some calculations to ensure you're still where you need to be. The tradeoffs would be cost (need to purchase new cylinder(s)) & space (CFS's are 2" wide for that amount of force) versus air consumption. Weight & c.g. will probably be about the same.

I love that CAD animation. It's probably the coolest thing I've seen all season.

It will be interesting to see what happens with all of the center-based 30-point climbers. It's also interesting to see that there haven't been any tangible claims (photos, video, sketches of ideas) of a corner-climber yet.
__________________

Drive Coach, 1885 (2007-present)
CAD Library Updated 5/1/16 - 2016 Curie/Carver Industrial Design Winner
GitHub
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-02-2013, 18:43
MetalJacket's Avatar
MetalJacket MetalJacket is offline
Has read the 2014 manual
AKA: Jesse Gibson
FRC #2068 (The Metal Jackets)
Team Role: CAD
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 164
MetalJacket has a spectacular aura aboutMetalJacket has a spectacular aura aboutMetalJacket has a spectacular aura about
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by JesseK View Post
It's also interesting to see that there haven't been any tangible claims (photos, video, sketches of ideas) of a corner-climber yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjifzv5Oago

Not sure if you've seen this yet, or how tangible you consider it to be but it looks like this team has a corner climber.
__________________
Team Role = !artTeam
2011 - Logomotion
- Virginia Regional : Tournament Semi-Finalist, Gracious Professionalism Award
2012 - Rebound Rumble
- Chesapeake Regional : Tournament Finalist, Gracious Professionalism Award
2013 - Ultimate Ascent
- Virginia Regional : Gracious Professionalism Award
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:52
Kevin Ray's Avatar
Kevin Ray Kevin Ray is offline
Registered User
None #0329 (Raiders)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Medford, NY
Posts: 227
Kevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to beholdKevin Ray is a splendid one to behold
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar View Post
So is this gonna be your team's thing? Climb to 30 and then dump 4 or will you be able to score other discs before climbing?
They won't need to score other discs before climbing...They'll be a sure bet for a third pick, at least.

Great Job!!
__________________
_____________________________________________

Last words before magic smoke appears: "There, that oughta work!"
2016 Utah Regional- Engineering Inspiration
2016 Utah Regional- Dean's List Semi-Finalist- Ed O'Connor
2016 Utah Regional- Dean's List Semi-Finalist- Emily Ferrari
2016 Utah Regional- 3rd seed
2016 SBPLI Regional- Finalist, 6th seed
2016 SBPLI Regional- Gracious Professionalism Award
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 13:56
Chris is me's Avatar
Chris is me Chris is me is online now
no bag, vex only, final destination
AKA: Pinecone
FRC #0228 (GUS Robotics); FRC #2170 (Titanium Tomahawks)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 7,615
Chris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond reputeChris is me has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Chris is me
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

This was essentially our strategy for almost the first half of build, but we chickened out. Great job! I think you will be a first round pick at every event you attend, and definitely a second round at Champs, if you have the climb and dump consistent enough.
__________________
Mentor / Drive Coach: 228 (2016-?)
...2016 Waterbury SFs (with 3314, 3719), RIDE #2 Seed / Winners (with 1058, 6153), Carver QFs (with 503, 359, 4607)
Mentor / Consultant Person: 2170 (2017-?)
---
College Mentor: 2791 (2010-2015)
...2015 TVR Motorola Quality, FLR GM Industrial Design
...2014 FLR Motorola Quality / SFs (with 341, 4930)
...2013 BAE Motorola Quality, WPI Regional #1 Seed / Delphi Excellence in Engineering / Finalists (with 20, 3182)
...2012 BAE Imagery / Finalists (with 1519, 885), CT Xerox Creativity / SFs (with 2168, 118)
Student: 1714 (2009) - 2009 Minnesota 10,000 Lakes Regional Winners (with 2826, 2470)
2791 Build Season Photo Gallery - Look here for mechanism photos My Robotics Blog (Updated April 11 2014)
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 14:00
dodar's Avatar
dodar dodar is online now
Registered User
FRC #1592 (Bionic Tigers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 2,923
dodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me View Post
This was essentially our strategy for almost the first half of build, but we chickened out. Great job! I think you will be a first round pick at every event you attend, and definitely a second round at Champs, if you have the climb and dump consistent enough.
Heck, 50 points per match, they may seed #1 at every regional they attend.
__________________
1592(Student and Mentor) 2007-2012

Blue Banners: 2008 Colorado, 2012 Orlando, 2012 South Florida, 2014 Orlando, 2015 Buckeye

Mechanical Engineering - University of Central Florida(Class of 2016)
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2013, 14:23
45Auto's Avatar
45Auto 45Auto is offline
Registered User
FRC #2992
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Slidell, La
Posts: 150
45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future45Auto has a brilliant future
Re: Team 2992 - 30 pt Climber - Top target dumper

Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar
does it stay legal?
It was designed during week one when it still had to stay inside a 54" vertical cylinder. It easily stayed inside the original 54" vertical cylinder, including the "swing" from one bar to the next. The rule change at the end of week one allowing the cylinder to stay "robot oriented" didn't affect us.

__________________

2007 - Rookie All Star - Bayou Regional (1858 - Tyborgs)
2009 - Rookie All Star - Bayou Regional (2992 -Prometheus)
2010 - Champions - Bayou Regional (2992 -Prometheus)
2012 - Finalist - Bayou Regional (2992 - Prometheus)
team2992.com/design.php
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 13:42.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi