Team 997 Spartan Robotics "Ultamate Ascent" Climber (vid)

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This is team 997's Climber Bot. It has two pairs of pistons, and a linear actuator to move the inner pair forward and backward. I does not currently have any other method of movement, although a modular drivetrain "attachment" is planned and in the works. There is also going to be a "disc dumper" attachment on the middle pair of pistons. This dumping phase of the climb is simulated as a dry run in the video. You may notice that there is a lot of rocking, and that the robot is bashed against the pyramid. This will be alleviated by another pair bumpers on the chamfered front of the 'bot. Any questions, comments, or critiques? Please feel free to post!

http://youtu.be/9lqxi2BZlF8

[swwrobotics]

It says that the video doesn't exist...

[ENIAC]

Originally Posted by swwrobotics

It says that the video doesn't exist...

This should be the right link:
http://youtu.be/9lqxi2BZlF8

[|DELTA|]

Originally Posted by ENIAC

This should be the right link:
http://youtu.be/9lqxi2BZlF8

Thanks, Mat.

[Arpan]

Could be very worth it to use some gas springs to accelerate retraction of the cylinders.

[mlantry]

were there wheels on your robot because to me it just looks like a big white block on the bottom of the robot

Edit i now saw the part about a modular drive

[Nemo]

Amazing job on this thing. Really cool design.

[Pendulum^-1]

Nice work. As others have mentioned, the swinging is a problem, in that it is slowing you down. Perhaps you could deploy a pool noodle as a forward protrusion (either a loop or a stick) to impact the departed bar on the return swings and have a dampening effect on the swinging. Should not take much...just something soft and flexible to touch the crossbar and take energy out of each swing of the robot.

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by Arpan

Could be very worth it to use some gas springs to accelerate retraction of the cylinders.

I'll echo this. This will make your climb sooooo much quicker. Stick a light gas spring in line with your cylinders that will force the hooks up when you have no pressure retracting the cylinder. You will use half the air volume to climb, hopefully cutting your climb time in half!

Love the design, great work!

-Mike

[EFastring]

Its getting close to ship date, but you might still have time to throw on a flywheel connected to a motor to act as gyroscopic resistance to swinging.

[lemiant]

Originally Posted by EFastring

Its getting close to ship date, but you might still have time to throw on a flywheel connected to a motor to act as gyroscopic resistance to swinging.

I'd love to see a robot with that. Has this technique ever been used succesfully in FRC?

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by lemiant

I'd love to see a robot with that. Has this technique ever been used succesfully in FRC?

263 and 2168 used fly wheels in 2009 to help their robots turn/resist turning on the slick surface. There may have been others too. I don't know about during a hanging maneuver though. There's never been an FRC challenge that required you perform a second action after the hang, so I don't think any teams considered gyroscopic stabilization necessary for previous hanging challenges.

I too would love to see a robot that implemented this.

[tsaksa]

Be aware that the ability of a flywheel to resist a swinging motion will also produce a precession force. This may not be very large depending on the size and location of the flywheel and the amount of resistance to swinging. However for a hanging robot there may be a risk of reducing the grip on one of the hooks and perhaps destabilizing the robot. A flywheel sure sounds cool, and might also really look cool in operation. But the problem might be quicker and easier to address with cushioning. Remember, keep It Simple.

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Wow! Thanks for all the awesome ideas! I really like the flywheel design idea. And, we had considered using gas shocks while designing it, and we were going to buy pistons with springs in them. However, money is a big issue on my team.

UPDATE! We have completed the climb in about 40 seconds. As you can imagine, we are fully utilizing the Autonomous Period. Also, we have an awesome driver. There is padding where there can be, and things are going well. A bottom cover for the base bumper has been made.

[Trez]

My Team, 3606 BearMetal, (also CHS ), has a very similar robot to yours. We're not using pneumatics but we have three lead screws and three "hooks", our center hook also moves back and forth. We're really quick climbing to the in a minute to a minute and a half. We also might do part of the climb in autonomous like your team.