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How is AP (Autonomous Points) calculated?

Hi All,

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I have noticed that AP or Autonomous Points are the major ranking factor at events after number of wins and ties (QS = 2 points for Win, 1 point for Tie). By getting one more win you could easily jump a half dozen ranks up if you have a good AP score.

We have a two disk, 3 point, autonomous mode and score about 3/4 at present.

Two disks scoring 6 points each would be 12, and for 12 matches would be 144, if they were all scored. But our number was well higher than that. Not complaining of course

We noticed some newer teams and defender bots didn't make any autonomous shots but they do get some points. So it makes sense that we were getting some benefit from our alliances. But exactly how is the calculated? It doesn't seem trivial.
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Re: How is AP (Autonomous Points) calculated?

It's for every team in the alliance. They take a "snapshot" to count how many points were scored in autonomous right after autonomous finishes.
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Re: How is AP (Autonomous Points) calculated?

It is the Autonomous Points for the entire alliance for that match. So if you score 18 points, another alliance member scores 12 points, and the other scores 0 points, all 3 alliance members get 30 points AP.
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Re: How is AP (Autonomous Points) calculated?

Yes, but luckily as long as you're consistent you should fall right where you think you should.

1986's 7 disk was a huge auto point boost for a lot of teams at hub city, however they still had the highest pouts because they hit 7 every match
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Re: How is AP (Autonomous Points) calculated?

Interesting. Thanks for the input as I couldn't find this in any manual.

In our recent event there were 37 teams. There were a possibility of 2,324,784 six way combinations (or pairs of alliances). Is this right?!

I think I can accept its pretty much random and its highly unlikely that one team will get on 12 alliances which score the least number of autonomous points.

And if a team does not participate in autonomous it should draw their AP down while a 7 disk robot should draw its AP up.

OK we're good
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