Power State Alliances at Champs

[nicholsjj]

With most of the waitlist teams signing up for Champs, I thought it would be fun for the CD community to come up with a power alliance from the state that they are from. Doing this could provide some insight for different area teams. Here goes mine..

Missouri

Captain: Team 1986: Provides a 7 disk auton. 3-4 disk cycles. A 30 pt climb at the end. 108 pts.

First Pick: Team 1806: Provides a 3 disk auton. 12 Full court shots at ~80%. A 50 pt climb at the end. 92 pts.

Second Pick: Team 1706: Provides a 3 disk auton. 21 Full court shots at ~70%. A 10 pt climb. with 2 pyrmaid shots. 83 pts.

Total: 283 points depending on robot blockers and the human players on the teams. The key to this alliance is that 1986 can run quick cycles if the other alliances choose to not defend both full court shooters, but then then one full court shooter gets free reign on the field.

Note: The other Missouri teams 1208(I know they are from "IL" but East St. Louis seams to much "MO" to not include them), 1288, 1730, 1939, 1985, 1987, 2408, 2457, 3284, 3528, and 4522 are all great teams, but I think this combo would put up the most points. The teams from Missouri this year have led me to believe that a blue banner might just get to stay in the state for once.

[Woolly]

Originally Posted by nicholsjj

With most of the waitlist teams signing up for Champs, I thought it would be fun for the CD community to come up with a power alliance from the state that they are from. Doing this could provide some insight for different area teams. Here goes mine..

Missouri

Captain: Team 1986: Provides a 7 disk auton. 3-4 disk cycles. A 30 pt climb at the end. 108 pts.

First Pick: Team 1806: Provides a 3 disk auton. 12 Full court shots at ~80%. A 50 pt climb at the end. 92 pts.

Second Pick: Team 1706: Provides a 3 disk auton. 21 Full court shots at ~70%. A 10 pt climb. with 2 pyrmaid shots. 83 pts.

Total: 283 points depending on robot blockers and the human players on the teams. The key to this alliance is that 1986 can run quick cycles if the other alliances choose to not defend both full court shooters, but then then one full court shooter gets free reign on the field.

Note: The other Missouri teams 1208(I know they are from "IL" but East St. Louis seams to much "MO" to not include them), 1288, 1730, 1939, 1985, 1987, 2408, 2457, 3284, 3528, and 4522 are all great teams, but I think this combo would put up the most points. The teams from Missouri this year have led me to believe that a blue banner might just get to stay in the state for once.

We only climb for 20 climb + 20 dump. However, I think we could get off more than 12 FCS Shots in a match if we aren't being defended.

Also, we shall call it the 1XX6 alliance.

[AdamHeard]

Some combination of 254, 1538, 1717, us and 2485.

[nikeairmancurry]

Michigan is too bloody hard... 33, 67, 469, 1718, 1918, 3539 and many other combinations can put up 200+ points...

33, 67, 1918 could have put up 292 points if 1918 did not fall off the pyramid.

[CrazyMohawk]

Washington 2471 1983 2046

[Austin2046]

Originally Posted by CrazyMohawk

Washington 2471 1983 2046

I'd throw in 948 and 1899 into the mix as well.

I think any combination of those 5 will be able to play with the best of them

[CrazyMohawk]

Originally Posted by Austin2046

I'd throw in 948 and 1899 into the mix as well.

I think any combination of those 5 will be able to play with the best of them

imo we need someone to climb or play defense which is why i picked 2046. 1983 as a better auton than 1899 and ground pickup. And 2471 has ground pickup as well.

[Clinton Bolinger]

Michigan

• 469 - 7 Disc Auton - Ground/Feeder
• 67 - 3 Disc Auton - FCS - Climb & Dump (4)
• 1918 - 3 Disc Auton - Ground/Feeder - Climb & Dump (2)

Assume they can score all the disc:
78 Auton Points + 135 Disc Points + 70 Climb Points + 30 Pyramid Disc Points = 313 (or more because of taking the other alliance's disc)

Now if 469 adds a lvl 3 Climber for the Championship, it becomes 333 Points.

-Clinton-

[Tom Line]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

Michigan is too bloody hard... 33, 67, 469, 1718, 1918, 3539 and many other combinations can put up 200+ points...

33, 67, 1918 could have put up 292 points if 1918 did not fall off the pyramid.

Oddly enough, I don't think I'd include 1718. While we're consistent, we're too much of a one-trick pony.

67 for their climb and dump, and whose misses feed the ground pickups. They also have a fairly solid cycle if fcs is defended. 469 for auto, and ground pickup. If 1918 can get their mechanical issues sorted, I'd end up picking them as a third. They aren't terribly consistent (yet), but their 30 point climb + 2 colored disks + 2 - 3 runs beats most good cyclers at 5-6 runs on points.

We saw it several times at MSC where teams with too many good cyclers were running out of discs. At that point, you have to fall back on climbing and auton to really bump your score upwards.

I think any California Power Alliance would have to include 254 and 1538. Amazing ground pickups, high potential for a 90 point autonomous and amazing scoring/climbing machines. The third bot would really have to depend on what the alliance is going for. I think both 254 and 1538 would appreciate a robot that can feed discs from the HP station a la 118 at SVR, but said robot also needs to be able to score and climb by itself as well. For this reason, I think 2485 with their full-court-shooting potential as well as large potential to feed its alliance partners would be ideal for this West Coast Wonder of an alliance.

In summary:

254 - Ground pickup/90 point auton, Strong scoring, 30 point climb
1538 - Ground pickup/90 point auton, strong scoring, 10 point climb
2485 - Strong feeding ability, Full-Court-Shooting, 10 point climb

A strong secondary candidate for this alliance would have to be either 1717 or 973, which are both strong scorers, but do not have the capabilities to feed 254/1538 from their scoring position, a skill that makes 2485 special.

[Mongai]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Am I allowed to claim Missouri as a home state? Kansas doesn't have anyone qualified...

From Kansas: 1448 and 1710 would be a cool team. Excellent climber and fine shooting. If only there were more than two teams going to Champs.

[Peyton Yeung]

Indiana: 868, 447, 234

868: a great cycler that dominated both events they went to and has a lot of potential

447: multi disk auton and fast cycling

234: an accurate and fast cycler

[Gregor]

Ontario:

1114: 18 point auto, 5 cycles, 50 point hang. 128 points

2056: 42 point auto, 5-6 "cycles," 10 point hang. 112-124 points

610: 18 point auto, 5-7 cycles OR quick FCS*, 10 point hang. 88-112 points.

Total: 328-364

Problem, this alliance needs 72 disks, there are 47 available. 2056 can steal opponents misses (and they regularly do), but this alliance is capped at the amount of disks they can get their hands on.



*can hit up to 28 disks with their FCS, but I didn't incude it in the point totals because they don't do it often.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Problem, this alliance needs 72 disks, there are 47 available. 2056 can steal opponents misses (and they regularly do), but this alliance is capped at the amount of disks they can get their hands on.

This is an uncommonly made point on chief; many people seem completely unaware that there are only 45 (+6) frisbees at the feeder station.

[PVCpirate]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

This is an uncommonly made point on chief; many people seem completely unaware that there are only 45 (+6) frisbees at the feeder station.

And we're definitely going to see some alliances run out in elims next week. Those Elims are going to be really interesting, I can't wait.