Paper Scouting Sheets

[depth_Finder]

I am developing a workshop to teach less rookies and other new teams easy ways to scout. I want to show them several examples of scouting sheets from over the years as part of an example of how to design the sheets based off of the game.

I was wondering if anyone could either send me some old sheets, or point me in the right direction. Thank you.

Quinn Schiller
FRC 1983 Skunkworks
Lead Scouting Analyst

P.S. If you send in old sheets, please include the year and game name.

[Nemo]

Figuring out what to do with your stack of completed paper scouting sheets is a challenge. I suggest addressing that if you are going to provide examples of scouting sheets.

[IKE]

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2828
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2700
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2589
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2572
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2370

We use 1 sheet per team, and I LOVE our new sheets. Because all 12 matches (usually 7-10 when making a pick list) are on the same sheet, we use the sheets to help sort teams. The new sheet makes this so much easier than the old sheets (thank you 3929). You should be able to see a nice evolution of our single sheet system.

As far as what do I do with old sheets? I tend to save them. We use them time from time when doing stats relative to games, or week 1 vs. week X or OPR vs. "real" scoring or why does team X seem to win every match or....

Just be very careful not to loose a sheet.

[Ryan Dognaux]

PM me your e-mail address and I'll shoot you an example of sheets that we used in 2012.

As for organizing them, someone suggested to me a while back on here to try out the accordian organizer and we never looked back. We labeled each slot to hold a range of team numbers and it worked out well, a lot better than a 3 ring binder.

[CENTURION]

We use laminated sheets and wet-erase markers. The sheets are scanned and read by a computer, and the data put into a database.

this thread details the system, and also has an example scouting sheet.

[depth_Finder]

Originally Posted by Nemo

Figuring out what to do with your stack of completed paper scouting sheets is a challenge. I suggest addressing that if you are going to provide examples of scouting sheets.

A simple entry and analytics system will also be part of the workshop, but I want to display as many different types of input sheets as possible.

[lynca]

We used Spam's 180 scouting sheet this year.
We have used it for many years now with great success.

Thank you Team 180 !

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by lynca

We used Spam's 180 scouting sheet this year.
We have used it for many years now with great success.

Thank you Team 180 !

We use a version of SPAM's system as well. We hold it all in a hanging file folder with individual folders for each team(it's like $5 for a hundred of them). There is normally only one sheet per team in each folder but sometimes we will have notes or the little descriptions teams give out about their robots in with the scouting sheets.

6 people scouting, one lead handing out the sheets and one person entering data. These position overlap on occasion but we try to have 8-10 people in the stands doing it at a time.

[depth_Finder]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

We use a version of SPAM's system as well. We hold it all in a hanging file folder with individual folders for each team(it's like $5 for a hundred of them). There is normally only one sheet per team in each folder but sometimes we will have notes or the little descriptions teams give out about there robots in with the scouting sheets.

That seems much cheeper than using dividers. They take so long to file sheets and are expensive.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by depth_Finder

That seems much cheeper than using dividers. They take so long to file sheets and are expensive.

We use something like this.

And these are the folders though we can find them cheaper at Walmart.

It's sort of annoying to need a new set for each regional but I guess we could keep them all and just have one per team forever. Then we could reuse from year to year.

I learned this method from doing Inspections at different event. When you remove a sheet from it's folder turn the folder sideways so you know which ones are currently out of the box. If you label both the top and side of each folder it's very fast to get them in and out between matches.

[Mike Starke]

340 has found that these sheets are extremely helpful. These are printed on 11x17 inch paper, and you just use tallies to mark what a team has done in their match. They're great at showing trends (whether a team has improved, or gotten worse), and they are easy to read and understand- and they'll never give you the blue screen of death! Maybe Justin can show you what a filled out one looks like (he's got 340's framed in his room from last year ).

[robobuilder]

We use one sheet per team with a row for each match and a column for each part of the match (ie auto, shooting, climb, etc) this makes it easy to look down the list and see how consistant their robot is, however i've heard larger teams often use individual sheets for each team each match because it means more people can scout resulting in more accurate data.

[depth_Finder]

Thank you everyone for sending me these sheets. I will be sure to use them and credit them to their appropriate creators.

Are there any other "Best Practices" I should be sure to include in this workshop?

[lefkoc]

I would recommend, if you are going to show them paper scout sheets, to make sure they are aware that they need to keep them organized using something like a binder, which I use, or an accordian folder, which team 20 used. We have had great luck the last two years at CT partly due to strategy, and our scouting systems have really helped. Also, I'm not sure exactly what you are planning to cover or how in depth, but you might want to touch on backscouting and pit scouting too. I know I do a lot of work, along with the rest of my team, but it has been paying off for us... Oh, and I can't see the sheets that other teams are using, but for the most accurate data, especially pit scouting, warn them to stay away from opinion questions. Then the data quality can vary from person to person. And have them make sure that they are very organized, like schedules and time slots for scouting, because I know I have run in to problems having not enough scouts, and my team has 40+ members. Having the same people doing it the whole time can be exhausting... I know that was a lot, but that's my main job on my team so...
Just my take!

Special note - with binders, if you get plastic separators you can use stick on tabs and then just reuse them each competition. Easy way for them to save money if they want to.

[hiyou102]

2056 released their scouting sheet during a webinar earlier this year. It can be found here.