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Custom wheel making

Has any team here made custom wheels here. If so what was your process. How much did it cost? and did it work they well?
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Has any team here made custom wheels here. If so what was your process. How much did it cost? and did it work they well?
Yes. CNC Milling. $1.69/lb. Yes.
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Re: Custom wheel making

what was this wheel made out of and do you have a picture of it? Thank you for responding.
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what was this wheel made out of and do you have a picture of it? Thank you for responding.
The best I have is this picture of our whole robot. The wheel was made out of 6061-T6 aluminum round bar. It took about 20 minutes each to machine on a vertical machining center. The majority of the time was cutting the groove for the tread and corner rounding the edges. I could probably cut down the cycle time now that I've learned a bit more about feedrates and material removal rates.

If you search the CD media section, there are several examples of custom made wheels.

Wheels can even be made on a manual mill and/or lathe if you don't have access to a CNC, and if you have enough patience and time.
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The best I have is this picture of our whole robot. The wheel was made out of 6061-T6 aluminum round bar. It took about 20 minutes each to machine on a vertical machining center. The majority of the time was cutting the groove for the tread and corner rounding the edges. I could probably cut down the cycle time now that I've learned a bit more about feedrates and material removal rates.

If you search the CD media section, there are several examples of custom made wheels.

Wheels can even be made on a manual mill and/or lathe if you don't have access to a CNC, and if you have enough patience and time.
Here's two better pictures.
http://i.imgur.com/btUmTzW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZUqlDUP.jpg
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Dude. That is one gnarly gearbox. I love the ano, HSM pocketing, and the ratchet. Was it for a lock for a 30 point climb?
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Dude. That is one gnarly gearbox. I love the ano, HSM pocketing, and the ratchet. Was it for a lock for a 30 point climb?
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Yes, the ratchet is attached to a spindle, which can be engaged by actuating a pancake piston. It can be used for a 30 pt climb, if anyone decides to actually design it.
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Re: Custom wheel making

Yes. We had a friend at Stratasys 3D Print 2 different versions of them (see picture below). The white wheels were Gen1 and they were made from abs m30, we ran into the problem of hubs getting stripped of their hex shape, so we replaced them with the black ones which were made from Ultem (which were about twice as strong) and they seem to be working just fine. For us the wheels were free, but MSRP we have heard (from different people) that they range from about $150/wheel to about $300.

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Yes. We had a friend at Stratasys 3D Print 2 different versions of them (see picture below). The white wheels were Gen1 and they were made from abs m30, we ran into the problem of hubs getting stripped of their hex shape, so we replaced them with the black ones which were made from Ultem (which were about twice as strong) and they seem to be working just fine. For us the wheels were free, but MSRP we have heard (from different people) that they range from about $150/wheel to about $300.

Wow... And I thought AM wheels were expensive. That seems like some really nice stuff. Any reason why the 3D printed one is better then say an regular Alum one (besides the fact it was free ).
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Wow... And I thought AM wheels were expensive. That seems like some really nice stuff. Any reason why the 3D printed one is better then say an regular Alum one (besides the fact it was free ).
We didn't have the CNC machine time and Stratasys can print oodles of these for machine tests and demos. We were looking for a one piece wheel that would have been expensive to purchase otherwise.
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How did the cost break down for the 3D printed wheels? Was it mostly materials or simply having them 3D printed? Do you know if a team has their own 3D printer about how much it would cost to print each wheel?
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