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Unread 24-10-2013, 21:35
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We Need Your Help!

Hello all!
I am now the lead Electrical mentor for team 4288, the Worcester Beach Bots. Our school board ruled that our robotics team was no longer an official club. Please help us by signing our petition at change.org below.


http://www.change.org/petitions/over...public-schools

Thank You,
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Re: We Need Your Help!

If everyone could share this on Facebook, twitter, etc. it would help us out a lot!

Thank You so Much!!

P.S. I hope to someday see our team compete in a water game.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

This sucks. One of the teams I work with just lost support from their school after 9 years, and has to completely re-form under new circumstances. I signed your petition, good luck and I hope you get to compete this year one way or another.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Thank you so much!
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Unread 24-10-2013, 23:14
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Re: We Need Your Help!

There must be another piece of this story we don't have. Why would you just up and end something? What's the missing piece to this puzzle?
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There must be another piece of this story we don't have. Why would you just up and end something? What's the missing piece to this puzzle?
This. But if there really is nothing else, this royally sucks.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Robotics has taught me more about engineering, programming, and even real life situations than school has. It's a shame it's being questioned.
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Unread 25-10-2013, 08:36
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Good luck with your petition, but I really don't see that swaying the school board. You need to address the reasons why they do not see your team as club any more.

You at the very least are owed an explanation of why you are no longer an official club. This is also something to get the local First people involved since they have an vested interest in the outcome.

In our school system the board would not get involved in a "club" decision unless there was a political issue. The principal at the school carries most of that weight. The main criteria for a club is to have a willing Faculty adviser & be self supporting. To deny one group equal access to the facilities that other group have might well be illegal. (I did not say is., the law is complicated & I am not a lawyer.)

Always be polite. Try not to be confrontational. The goal is to persuade & not force the school board to your side.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

I wonder if the cost is really the basic issue.

I know from past experience that often schools view things like this as vocational and these days many schools view vocational programs as too expensive when you consider the cost per student versus a student that merely hopes to graduate.

I am merely wondering. If the school foots too much burden finance wise it could be a point of contention.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

We feel the pain for you and happy that you have started the petition.

There is no reason (unless natural disasters) that FRC team should lose its support from School. Its lack of leadership in the decision makers and understanding of education, they don't see the bigger picture and the impact FRC has on youth. If its financial issue, school/school district can support the team and team can raise funds or collect fee from the members. There are many ways school can support, many times just the moral support is great!

Many times team members are blamed for their action, in such cases, only the offenders should be punished and not the whole team.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Unfortunately money is often the issue.
School systems have to balance the funds available with a bunch of competing interest.

FRC is expensive. Funding your team is a never ending job. If you are getting significant dollars from your school you are going to have to be prepared to make a continuing case that is the best use of their (or tax payer) money. Some body else is making the case that the money is better used for their project.

One advantage of doing Chairmans is you have a ready made presentation of how your team effects the community & promotes STEM. Use it.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Actually, we never were financially supported by our county.
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Re: We Need Your Help!

Being in an almost similar situation, I feel for you guys. Signed and shared.

Our school board made so many promises after we won an event last year. Not only were none of them fulfilled, but they managed to make us worse off by removing the space we did have and replacing it with a weight room. We're currently without a home.

It just makes me wonder where school systems have their priorities. Education, where quite literally anyone could "go pro" - or Athletics?
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Our team lost school club status after our head mentor (a high school physics teacher) had to leave due to health problems. It was impossible to find another teacher in the district willing to step in, so after exhausting all attempts to find a replacement teacher/mentor, and waiting until it became clear that the original teacher/mentor could not return, the school district cut us loose. It was harsh at the time, but I honestly do not think that the school district had much of a choice.

The good news is that the team not only survived, but thrived. Remaining mentors took ownership of the team's survival. We incorporated. The team spent three years as a wandering robotics team moving from one donated unused warehouse to the next (we currently have a permanent home again).

We also became a better, more active team. I'm sure this was not cause and effect, but adversity can be a galvanizing force.

I signed your petition and wish you good luck.
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Signed. I hope you guys get it worked out. Currently my team is going through a hard time. Our county doesn't support us more than a room to work in(even that I think there charging us for). Our head mentor and co founder of our team just retired last year and everything else is just falling apart. Good luck to you and your team
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