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FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info
Posted on the FRC Blog, 11/7/13: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...80%93More-Info
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info
54 regionals x 6 qualifiers per regional = 324 unique slots.
32(FiM) + 18(MAR) + 24(NE) + 24(PNW) = 98 324 + 98 = 422 They are really banking on 22 slots being double dipped. 22 seems like a lot to hope they get taken twice. |
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info
DD + teams unable to go to CMP for whatever reason
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info
Helpful update... thanks Frank & Co!
Glad they're going with a proportional allocation... definitely the logical and fair way to go. I also like that the teams that qualified for CMP before the start of season to be in addition to the calculated proportional allocation. It mentions in the point system document under awards that the DCMP Chairmans', EI, and RAS winners auto-qualify to CMP. It doesn't mention if DCMP Winners also get an auto-qualify to CMP. Also doesn't mention how many Chairmans', EI, and RAS winners there are... I believe at MSC last year there were 3, 1, and 1 (respectively). Does anyone know more about if this element will be "regulated" or if regions are going to have to decide for themselves? Last edited by Nathan Streeter : 07-11-2013 at 14:41. |
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Concerned that the transition period to the district system is going to be more difficult to sell. It would be easier if it was possible to make it more consistent for all teams.Quote:
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BrendanB - The one thing you didn't include in your analysis was the NE teams that qualified at events outside of NE regionals. I'm just curious where that number puts us. I would argue that those teams should count in your analysis because they are included in the total district spots in the current system. I personally need to try to remember that and I will try to remind myself of that when I start thinking "it's not fair..." It's never been about fair; it is about learning and inspiring. It is about life, and everyone knows that life is not fair. At least that's what my mom always told me. ![]() Last edited by MamaSpoldi : 07-11-2013 at 17:05. Reason: added a comment |
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While the number of District-qualifying teams from New England will be 24 next year, that doesn't include the 5 teams already qualified for CMP from New England (126, 151, 175, 190, 236)... So, New England will send 29 teams to CMP next year... right on line with our recent historical average. Regardless of whether or not it would line up with our historical average or not, I'm glad that it's being determined by percentage of teams (although only approximately in 2014)... it's the fairest way to do it, I think. As a side-note, a district team that qualifies for CMP by winning at a regional doesn't really take away a slot from their region... they just ensure that they're one of those teams. If 1519, 230, and 3467 all traveled to the Albany-area regional next year, and we all won, New England would still send 29 teams (24 + 5 pre-quals)... it would just guarantee that we would be 3 of those teams. I think this method is about as good as any to try to bridge the two systems... this'll all work much better when a district-like system exists for everyone! |
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Can't satisfy everyone all the time. |
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29 slots were given out to teams (GSR did not have a Rookie All star). Of the 29 only 20 teams were from New England. Of these 20 teams only 18 attended the World Championship. Of the teams who came to New England events 7 of them qualified for the Championship. Of the 20 New England winners two of them double qualified (126 BOS winners and RCA & 2648 PTR winners and EI). The way I see it you could argue that NE should be getting 30 but if every district took what they originally had you won't fix the scalability issue. If anyone thought NE our any district would keep their original number they weren't looking at the reality of FIRST moving forward. Also looking at NE events in the past, our events have been home to many teams from outside of our borders such as Canada, New York, out the country, and many teams who traveled to New England over the years. Technically, New England will be sending the most teams we have ever sent to the Championship in 2014 which is something I am very excited about! |
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info
But the slots NE does have are guaranteed to be NE teams. A rough estimate (though maybe someone who has a better grasp of what actually constitutes New England... sorry, Midwesterner here), by my count at least six slots last year were taken from teams not in NE. So it might actually be a better deal to have the guaranteed spots.
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16, 20, 45, 51, 67, 103, 111, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 236, 254, 341, 359, 365, 610, 842, 1114, 1241, 1538, and 3478. I would wager 80% of these teams earn a spot this year, so that's 19 of 22 solved right there. |
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I only listed the teams that are already registered for champs.
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