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[FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...-Manual-Posted
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Last edited by Domenic Rodriguez : 19-12-2013 at 11:34. Reason: Forgot to add the link to the awards section |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
Here is the actual link to the Award Section of the manual: http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/viewItem/9
EDIT: OP has now added it to his post. Last edited by Hallry : 19-12-2013 at 12:23. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
Some interesting questions that I have regarding the Chairman's Award section (that CD probably can't provide a solid answer, so I'll go through FIRST Q/A too, just thought I'd put them here as well):
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Last edited by Carolyn_Grace : 19-12-2013 at 12:38. Reason: Adding more about video not being judged still. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
I agree with this. I think it's kind of silly to have this pseudo-requirement that kinda-sorta-somewhat-butnotreally matters. Why not require it as a piece of your presentation? Or just don't tell teams to do it.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
I think that they require videos from Chairman's teams so they have something easy to show of what the teams are doing. However, it does seem odd to me that it isn't officially used in the judging process. As a student, we spent about the same amount of time on the video as we did on the essay. It would make sense for both pieces to be used in judging.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
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However, I disagree with the CA judges last year who flatly refused to watch the video that one team intended to use as the opening part of their presentation. Most teams prepare a pamphlet or booklet or scrapbook or something to show the judges, don't they? If video is part of a team's community outreach or sponsorship search or general awareness-raising, there shouldn't be anything wrong with showing that. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
I was not aware this had happened. I was under the belief that if a team wanted to use videos in their presentation, they were more than free too. Am I mistaken on this?
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
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It seems that the video exists so FIRST has more things to publicize. Which is not a bad reason. I'd just like it to be clear that this is the case, and I'd then like reasons why it is not judged. The video is the part of the CA submission that takes the most time for my students. I feel that their time and efforts should be rewarded with feedback and judging towards the award. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
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In almost every other student activity, there is either direct or indirect feedback. If you are a programmer you see your robot move, if you write the Chairmans Award, someone reads it. Even if they do not win, Kids want to know that their efforts will be valued and considered by others. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
This issue was corrected for the affected team.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
For the Chairman's Video - Alan is right. The CA is not about how good of a video you can make, and if it was judged, the award could become just that.
In the early years, the RCA could be submitted any way a team wanted and there was a lot of work and effort put into the presentation format. We presented in binders, in the form of a newspaper, as a formatted word document, and many teams did similar. Many felt that there was too much work put into the style, not enough into the presentation content. As the award is now, the team materials and student presentation is what is being judged. That is part of the reason for the online submission in a basic text format. Requiring a video is mixed. It is a lot of work, for something that might not be show at the event, but there is nothing to stop a team from using their video as a school promotion, posting it on YouTube, showing sponsors, etc. |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
I don't where I fall on the "Chairman's Video" discussion so I'm going to comment on something I noticed in the Awards Section.
The Entrepreneurship Award is VERY different. I've heard of teams submitting 50+ page Business Plans. I understand that that is maybe necessary given a team's history but that would be extremely hard to judge. Restricting the characters and providing a pretty strict format will make it easier. But holy cow(s) did the Business Plan portion change!! |
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
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The manual states: Quote:
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Re: [FRC Blog] Awards Section of FRC Administrative Manual Posted
I made my award submitters log in to STIMS with me on November 14th to poke around and make sure they understood what was needed for the submissions (we had an issue last year with the submitters for one of the awards logging in the 2nd to last day and then scrambling...)
We were shocked to see the massive amount of changes to the business plan submission process. My understanding is that last year, it was just uploading of a document. This year, it's a lot of individual sections with maximum character limits. While I wish this was released/made public much earlier in the season (we pretty much develop our business plan at the beginning of the year), I understand that this makes the submissions much easier to compare and judge. We're one of those 50+ page business plan teams. We'll pare it down and make it fit the new format. I think the itemized list for the executive summary for chairman's is new too, rather than a free form maximum character space. Of course, as a mentor, I don't have access to these screens, so I'm going off memory. |
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I agree with MechEng83. I would have liked to have known this information in advance but it's ok. We still have about 2 months. Also, the Chairman's Executive Summary has changed. There are now 12 sections. I noticed a marked emphasis on how FRC teams build up other FIRST teams in the questions. It makes sense, we heard that kind of feedback last year at our presentation. |
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