Go to Post Once you have reached overkill, more is not useful. - DonRotolo [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Programming
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 25-01-2014, 15:36
Mrs N Mrs N is offline
Registered User
FRC #1332
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: United States
Posts: 4
Mrs N is an unknown quantity at this point
Question 2 solenoids per cylinder?

Hello,

Can we use two solenoids per cylinder? If so can we use the custom circuit clause to power them together? It seems that each solenoid needs it own connection to the Power Distribution Board, per rule 4.8.16.

We are catapulting the ball using two cylinders 1/16 x 10". Our solenoids are not quite doing the job as we had promising results when using the manual Parker values. Now that we are transitioning to the solenoids we are finding that the air flow is not quick enough to get similar results.

We have checked rules 71 saying unlimited and 77; we think we are okay?

We have been playing with a variety of solenoids:
Festo: VUVG-L10-B52-T-M7-1P3 (dual 24v) we don't get the results, air flow in greatly constricted.
SMC: NVF3130-6G-02T-X119 (single 12v)
CKD: 4GA1110-M5-E01-4 (single 12v )

When using two of either SMC or/and CKD we get more desirable results.

Any other solutions we have not considered?

Thanks!


PS. we too are pushing through a fear of pneumatics that has been embedded over the years!
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 25-01-2014, 15:44
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,789
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 2 solenoids per cylinder?

You think you're OK because of R71 and R77: Keep reading. R90 specifically says that the outputs of multiple solenoids can't be plumbed together.

I do suggest paying attention to the flow restriction on solenoids, or lack thereof, which may allow better air flow.

You could also use shorter cylinders, and run two in line with each other as a replacement for each cylinder you're currently using, each with its own solenoid.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi