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Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

Will add function to move forward as well and potentially hot goal targeting. As it is now we will always get at least 1 ball and 2 if we are lucky but may try to squeeze out another 5-10 points for maximum pointage if we can hit hot goals every time

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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

Video or it didn't happen.
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Video or it didn't happen.
oh i'm sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ladI...ature=youtu.be
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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

Did not expect that. When everything popped out I was rather surprised. Nice work!
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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

That's actually thoroughly fantastic, and one of the most unique mechanisms I've seen this year. Really cool.
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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

Good job!!! That is so cool guys. I love your guys technique for the triple autonomous.
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Good job!!! That is so cool guys. I love your guys technique for the triple autonomous.
now i just gotta make it move for 5 more points and maybe add hot goal detection for another 5-10 points. then it will be as good of an autonomous as theoretically possible for a single robot. the 2 remaining seconds should be enough time for that right..... right? xD
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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

[quote=sanelss;1351510]now i just gotta make it move for 5 more points and maybe add hot goal detection for another 5-10 points. then it will be as good of an autonomous as theoretically possible for a single robot. the 2 remaining seconds should be enough time for that right..... right? xD[/Q

You only have 1 or two seconds before teleop starts so I don't think you will be able to move to your color zone during auto when doing triple autonomous. You might have time but it is iffy. And having vision tracking will take to much time during tripel auto but you might have time during double auto if you had vision tracking.

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now i just gotta make it move for 5 more points and maybe add hot goal detection for another 5-10 points. then it will be as good of an autonomous as theoretically possible for a single robot. the 2 remaining seconds should be enough time for that right..... right? xD[/Q

You only have 1 or two seconds before teleop starts so I don't think you will be able to move to your color zone during auto when doing triple autonomous. You might have time but it is iffy. And having vision tracking will take to much time during tripel auto but you might have time during double auto if you had vision tracking.

I believe! This is enough to win most matches on its own already.

Although, I'd focus on making a perfect two ball auton. I think it's safe to assume that you will have a partner in elims that can do a single ball auto.
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I believe! This is enough to win most matches on its own already.

Although, I'd focus on making a perfect two ball auton. I think it's safe to assume that you will have a partner in elims that can do a single ball auto.
Well your partner in elims might be a defensive or goalie bot(rarely). And even if it is elims having a triple auto work like it did in that video, would get them a lot of points.
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Well your partner in elims might be a defensive or goalie bot(rarely). And even if it is elims having a triple auto work like it did in that video, would get them a lot of points.
it should work like that every time. everything on this robot is extremely forgiving, precision not required. and mid development when everything wasn't tweaked yet worst case scenario was it was still making 2/3. the ball we possess will always go in we know that. and if one side screws up for whatever reason the other side should still work. But we are trying very hard to make it work every time reliably.
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I believe! This is enough to win most matches on its own already.

Although, I'd focus on making a perfect two ball auton. I think it's safe to assume that you will have a partner in elims that can do a single ball auto.
that was the idea from the start, is maximize auto points, do 2-4 balls during teleop with 2 or 3 assist and we should average around 200 points a game hopefully. we did 3 ball autonomous because we believe we can make it work 100% every time so even if another robot can do it unless they are confident it will go in 100% we want to be able to do it ourselves and be 100% sure. can't let those points go to waste.
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now i just gotta make it move for 5 more points and maybe add hot goal detection for another 5-10 points. then it will be as good of an autonomous as theoretically possible for a single robot. the 2 remaining seconds should be enough time for that right..... right? xD[/Q

You only have 1 or two seconds before teleop starts so I don't think you will be able to move to your color zone during auto when doing triple autonomous. You might have time but it is iffy. And having vision tracking will take to much time during tripel auto but you might have time during double auto if you had vision tracking.

you are thinking too linearly, there is plenty of time to move forward and do vision tracking. these functions don't have to be serialized they can all happen at the same time. the only thing required is that when a ball is actually being shot forward that the robot not move, otherwise the other tasks can happen at the same time as the rest of the routine meaning it won't require any additional time and we should still have about a 2 second margin, even if it takes a little longer i think 20% margin(2/10 seconds) is enough time, if just barely

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you are thinking too linearly, there is plenty of time to move forward and do vision tracking. these functions don't have to be serialized they can all happen at the same time. the only thing required is that when a ball is actually being shot forward that the robot not move, otherwise the other tasks can happen at the same time as the rest of the routine meaning it won't require any additional time and we should still have about a 2 second margin, even if it takes a little longer i think 20% margin(2/10 seconds) is enough time, if just barely
Well post a video of you guys doing triple auto, moving forward, and having vision tracking all in ten seconds and then I will believe. I think you guys can move forward but having vision tracking all depends on if the hot goal lights up on the same side you are on during auto. You know maybe im wrong and over looking something but i will stand by my opinion and we will have to find out.
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Re: Team 1658 3 ball autonomous routine in 8 seconds(practice bot)

Very impressive autonomous!! I'm sure 1658 will be extremly competitive at the St. Louis regional this year again. The only thing I worry about is defense breaking your robot. After watching many many matches I beleve that defense is going to be brutal this year and when a robot collides with your robot at 10-15 fps bad things can happen!!

That autonomous though is just epic....EPIC
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