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Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

With all the chatter about how insane foul points are this year, here's a tool that shows all the matches where foul points decide the match

http://public.tableausoftware.com/vi...lay_count= no
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Just as an FYI i just checked my team (179) and Match 40 of Orlando we lost due to foul points, but the chart shows different
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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Can anyone tell me why no information from NH Granite State District are available?

131 has data from their second event, but not GSD.
Penalties per match can only be determined based on twitter data. GSD had issues both with their twitter feed and the webcast, so I'm assuming there was something up with the internet at the high school.

Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this, as they've been running into this issue for several years now.
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Looks like Groton also had issues with Twitter also. Shame they don't bring a hotspot into smaller events like this...
How difficult would it be to simply store the data locally and make it available later?

Does anybody have contact info for the person(s) within FIRST who would have the authority to make this happen and might be open to such a change?


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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?
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I'm curious to see which team(s) have been most affected by foul points. Which teams have lost the most matches due to fouls? Which teams have won the most due to fouls?
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If you can think of a better way to present this let me know. I haven't thoroughly cross-checked it yet.
A suggestion:

Even if some of these are from elimination matches, you could organize it as a qualifications-like league table:

Team WfL TfL LfW LfT TfW TfL Points

Where XfY is X from Y (eg WfL is Win from Loss) in number of games, and points is the cumulative points change (eg a WfL will give you +2, a TfL = +1, and a LfW = -2).

It could also be more useful to separate it in to two tables, with one dedicated to benefits (ie points gained) and the other to costs (ie points lost).
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

moved foul point analysis here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1362035

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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

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I replaced the PDF with a spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361958


I think all the other info you're looking for is in this spreadsheet:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1361812


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On first glance, it seems 245, 399 and 4776 (-10) have been hurt the most, while 4500 (+12) has benefitted from foul points the most. (Not quite useful analysis so far)
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moved foul point analysis here:
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

The site appears to be down as of 11:33PM EST 3/20
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You hit the site during an upgrade!
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This shows the net benefit for every team due to fouls:

http://public.tableausoftware.com/pr...BenefitByFouls

You can filter by event
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Re: Tool to Find Matches Decided by Fouls

Is it possible to compare this year to 2013? I remember some scores from last year with high foul counts. But I wasn't paying as much attention to when those were the cause of a loss. I know of at least one match last year when we lost because of it. There may have been others. This year I know there was only one such match for us so far. For that reason I am starting to question how much different this year is than last year.
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